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re: Do you have a friend that changes jobs…constantly? (Or maybe it’s you?)

Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:27 pm to
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3 jobs in about 4.5 years. doubled salary in that time. can't sit around and wait for it.

It stablizies though and you'll end up making about what you are worth. Luckily that was for me 1-2 years out of college. Then you have to consider whether making 5-10% more money is worth walking into an unknown situation. If it's 40%, sure, go for it, but that becomes less likely as you progress in your career.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 9:28 pm
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:28 pm to
I wish I had just a couple jobs, but my career has been pretty average in job count by modern standards.

-Layoffs (2 years)
-Merger/layoffs (5 years)
-Quit because employer was corrupt frick, and they paid me to keep quiet (1 year)
-layoffs (10 years)
-offered better opportunity with folks from previous job (3 years)
- current (2 years)
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47792 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:29 pm to
More common in Sales jobs, IMO

Loyalty goes both ways too because I was 8 years into a position that I'd grown 700% over a 7 year span & "let go" with no valid reason.

Company ended up laying off entire OSR Group in 3 month span and seems to be aligning for a sell by owner.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
5567 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:29 pm to
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This is a professional, not just some French fry cook.

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At one point, she worked at Walmart picking groceries.

These 2 things do not match. Is she a professional grocery picker??
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:30 pm to
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m one of those ppl.


Line of work?
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13234 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:31 pm to
The job hopping isn't bad. It's the trait of never being satisfied in the sense of something is always "wrong" with the place. That's the red flag.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:32 pm to
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i'm one of those people but here I am in the best financial shape of my life.


Line of work? I don’t begrudge people chasing opportunity, I’m amazed that some people can get hired for new opportunity sometimes.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12684 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:32 pm to
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I've had 2 jobs in the past 20 years. I guess you can constantly chase a slightly higher salary but that's never been worth the stability to me.


3% annual vs 100% in 5 years with 3 moves (ie move for raise, stay two years, move for raise, stay two years, just moved)
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:33 pm to
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The job hopping isn't bad. It's the trait of never being satisfied in the sense of something is always "wrong" with the place. That's the red flag.

Yep, Taylor Swift syndrome. Job hopping for more money is one thing. Going on Food stamps and working at Walmart is another.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:34 pm to
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I wish I had just a couple jobs, but my career has been pretty average in job count by modern standards

I pretty much have final say on who gets hired on my team. These aren't really entry level jobs. If you have 15 years of experience and 4-5 different positions that's no big deal. Or if you did contract work and had 15 that's fine too. But if you never held a job for longer than 2 years I'll most likely never even consider you.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:34 pm to
That’s not unreasonable. I think the OP is referring to people who literally change jobs every six months.

My company division goes through sales people like a fast food place goes through employees, so sometimes the employer is the problem.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 9:36 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53519 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:36 pm to
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3% annual vs 100% in 5 years with 3 moves (ie move for raise, stay two years, move for raise, stay two years, just moved)

Good luck to you with that. I'd throw your resume in the trash if you had 15 yrs of experience and 8 different jobs
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:37 pm to
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Loyalty goes both ways


Yep. Layoffs open your eyes. The last one was 100% expected because they had been wiping the slate, including founding employees and family of ceo. Decades of service, escorted to elevator like a common plebe.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:38 pm to
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quote: This is a professional, not just some French fry cook. quote: At one point, she worked at Walmart picking groceries. These 2 things do not match. Is she a professional grocery picker??


No, she’s all over the fricking map.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:39 pm to
I've had two jobs in 10 years. And the reason I left my previous employer(8.5 years) wa b/c they moved and it woulda been a 51 mile one-way trip, and also upper management had changed and it wasn't the same, but how some people can just job hop like that is crazy. No consistency.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53519 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:39 pm to
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Yep. Layoffs open your eyes. The last one was 100% expected because they had been wiping the slate, including founding employees and family of ceo. Decades of service, escorted to elevator like a common plebe.

Layoffs etc are fine. And in some fields like construction they are expected.
Posted by Big Ole Baw
Member since Dec 2021
352 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:41 pm to
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Good luck to you with that. I'd throw your resume in the trash if you had 15 yrs of experience and 8 different jobs



And you'll end up having a hard time finding talent with how things are headed.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:41 pm to
It is all in finance and he has worked for some fortune 500 companies and some mom and pop type places. Seems to be working out as he has manged on average 10-15k raise plus bonuses each time he jumps


Guess I should say it is not in sales, he has doubled his salary since he started switching jobs and his vacation time went from two weeks earned a year to four.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53519 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:43 pm to
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And you'll end up having a hard time finding talent with how things are headed.

It takes most employees a year to really be an important contributor on my team. If you are a 2 years and bounce type it's not worth my time
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13234 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 9:43 pm to
So I've held 6 jobs in 13 years. My dad considered me a job hopper.

Changing jobs has helped me increase my salary 3.7X based on my starting salary out of college.

There is no way I'd be where I am now if not for moving around. I don't judge my generation for moving every 2-3 years.
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