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Do you believe in quantum immortality?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:31 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:31 am
Putting the debate of superdeterminism and many world theories to explain the seemingly dual nature of Schroeder's wave function against empirical measurements...
Let's assume multiple worlds exist based in superposition as we interact with higgs boson particles:
Do you believe your consciousness will always survive given infinite choices to infinity?
In layman's terms for the retarded- if you were to nearly die today - what if you really died in this existence but just jumped to the next branch of existence where you lived on and on?
Let's assume multiple worlds exist based in superposition as we interact with higgs boson particles:
Do you believe your consciousness will always survive given infinite choices to infinity?
In layman's terms for the retarded- if you were to nearly die today - what if you really died in this existence but just jumped to the next branch of existence where you lived on and on?
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:33 am
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:32 am to theunknownknight
I didn't... but now I do.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:32 am to theunknownknight
I’m out of weed so..... I have no opinion until I reup.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:32 am to theunknownknight
Can I take my 401k with me?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:33 am to theunknownknight
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what if you really died in this existence but just jumped to the next branch of existence where you lived on and on?
This is why I choose Jesus Christ as my lord and personal savior. Duh.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:34 am to theunknownknight
Do we know we die and are living another existence or is our current existence continually branched off of an existence where we died and our current bodies took a different path?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:34 am to Cdawg
But what if this is the point - God isn't just saving a part of you...but ALL of you? And that includes multiple branches of existence?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:36 am to J Murdah
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Do we know we die and are living another existence or is our current existence continually branched off of an existence where we died and our current bodies took a different path?
You, as you, would be completely ignorant. You would live on into a reality where immortality is achievable. Then wake up to see the infinite branches of everyone you've ever known ending at the same point
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:38 am to theunknownknight
Have you ever done DMT
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:39 am to theunknownknight
If we cant remember this existence when we "jump to to the next" whats the point?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:40 am to SippyCup
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If we cant remember this existence when we "jump to to the next" whats the point?
Different question
BUT if you ultimately dont know the difference why does it matter?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:40 am to SippyCup
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If we cant remember this existence when we "jump to to the next" whats the point?
Doesn't have to be a point.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:41 am to theunknownknight
UVA does...
https://uvamagazine.org/articles/the_science_of_reincarnation
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=La8vG4mA0is
https://uvamagazine.org/articles/the_science_of_reincarnation
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The Science of Reincarnation UVA psychiatrist Jim Tucker investigates children’s claims of past lives
by SEAN LYONS
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=La8vG4mA0is
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Evidence of Reincarnation in Childhood by Dr. Jim Tucker (Full Presentation)
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Published on Sep 7, 2016
"From the 2014 Synchronicity Symposium © Gary S. Bobroff 2016 https://www.GSBobroff.com" (Audio quality improves at 5 minutes). Jim B. Tucker, M.D. is Bonner-Lowry Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences at the University of Virginia. He is continuing the work of Ian Stevenson at the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies with children who report memories of previous lives. His overview of the research, Life Before Life: A Scientific Investigation of Children’s Memories of Previous Lives, was published in 2005 and has been translated into ten languages. His latest book, Return to Life: Extraordinary Cases of Children Who Remember Past Lives, is a collection of recent American cases he has studied
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:41 am to theunknownknight
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Do we know we die and are living another existence or is our current existence continually branched off of an existence where we died and our current bodies took a different path?
You, as you, would be completely ignorant. You would live on into a reality where immortality is achievable. Then wake up to see the infinite branches of everyone you've ever known ending at the same point
immortality isn't achievable though the universe, this galaxy will end at some point.
But to answer your question, if I accept the principle that there are many universes branching out - I am of the opinion that my consciousness is the same in several "physical universes" concurrently.
For example - some dude I don't know or have any idea of in India decides to commit suicide, vs. not commit suicide. My mind doesn't "branch out" because of his decision - there is no difference to my consciousness so from my perspective I am still in a single branch of the "physical universe".
However, said Indian guys friend now exists in two universes, one in which his friend is dead and one in which he is alive. My single consciousness now exists in both of those universes concurrently and not as a copy.
Furthermore, IF i met said Indian guys friend on a plane and we had a conversation about his friends suicide - my mind / consciousness would briefly be forced to exist in two worlds; however, if i left the plane and never thought about or was impacted by that conversation again - my mind / consciousness would return to a single entity, existing concurrently in Indian guys friends multiverse - with any minimal impact on my psyche relegated to my common extreme subconscious.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 11:51 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:43 am to theunknownknight
Yes
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:46 am to theunknownknight
no, I dont believe life is that complex
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:48 am to theunknownknight
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Do you believe your consciousness will always survive given infinite choices to infinity?
If there are infinite worlds/timelines, there are other worlds identical to ours. Those could diverge at any point including just before “your” death in this timeline. So your consciousness would exist at multiple places and persist past your death in those.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:48 am to Sneaky__Sally
quote:butterfly effect, yea i believe that is bogus too.
For example - some dude I don't know or have any idea of in India decides to commit suicide, vs. not commit suicide. My mind doesn't "branch out" because of his decision - there is no difference to my consciousness so from my perspective I am still in a single branch of the "physical universe".
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:52 am to theunknownknight
In some form, even though I've never heard of the term "quantum immortality", yes I believe it.
IMO, when discussing this concept, whether or not you are a theist is irrelevant to the question of "what happens after we die?"
You'll often hear people say "it will be like before you were born."
To me, that is a really nonsensical and lazy answer. Before we were born, we did not have a consciousness. So how can it be just like before we were born?
If you really want to boggle your mind, truly reflect on what will happen to your consciousness after you die.
When you go to sleep, you wake up. When you get knocked unconscious, you wake up. When someone goes into a coma, they either eventually wake up or die.
In other words, every experience of unconsciousness we know of ends either in waking up (and being conscious again) or death.
But what happens when there is nothing to wake up to again? What's the next thing we are aware of? You can't really tell me that "it will be like before we were born." Unless we are somehow able to be conscious of our own non-existence. But even that wouldn't be like "before we were born," would it?
IMO, when discussing this concept, whether or not you are a theist is irrelevant to the question of "what happens after we die?"
You'll often hear people say "it will be like before you were born."
To me, that is a really nonsensical and lazy answer. Before we were born, we did not have a consciousness. So how can it be just like before we were born?
If you really want to boggle your mind, truly reflect on what will happen to your consciousness after you die.
When you go to sleep, you wake up. When you get knocked unconscious, you wake up. When someone goes into a coma, they either eventually wake up or die.
In other words, every experience of unconsciousness we know of ends either in waking up (and being conscious again) or death.
But what happens when there is nothing to wake up to again? What's the next thing we are aware of? You can't really tell me that "it will be like before we were born." Unless we are somehow able to be conscious of our own non-existence. But even that wouldn't be like "before we were born," would it?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:53 am to NOFOX
But eventually they could converge again based on Hilbert's finite model and the ultimate immortal realities would be indistinguishable
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