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Do you believe in free will or is everything already decided?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:14 am
A fatalistic view suggests that everything is fate, while you feel as if you are making decisions, you are subject to inevitability. While determinism doesn't hold that everything is predetermined, rather all actions are subject to predetermined laws--ex. gravity. Do you believe in fate or are things open to choice?
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Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:15 am to rebeloke
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rebeloke
Should've seen that before clicking
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:15 am to rebeloke
I am deciding on what I want for lunch today. Does that count?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:15 am to rebeloke
quote:
Do you believe in free will
don't blame destiny on your shitty fricking threads.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:17 am to rebeloke
I believe in free will.
Of course, I was destined to type that.
Of course, I was destined to type that.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:17 am to rebeloke
The concepts are intertwined and separate at the same time.
Believing one or the other is irrelevant.
You choose to do something, i.e. free will, your choice is the only one that occurs, therefore making it the fated choice.
Whether or not you believe the result is fate doesn't matter. You chose one option and that is the only option you'll ever choose.
Believing one or the other furthers no purpose and exists only for the purpose of generating discussions.
Believing one or the other is irrelevant.
You choose to do something, i.e. free will, your choice is the only one that occurs, therefore making it the fated choice.
Whether or not you believe the result is fate doesn't matter. You chose one option and that is the only option you'll ever choose.
Believing one or the other furthers no purpose and exists only for the purpose of generating discussions.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:18 am to rebeloke
I can tell you that our mental state is much more complex than most people realize. Our brain processes many different stimuli subconsciously, and thus we tend to act more impulsively rather than actively make a choice. So in a sense, we really have very limited free will.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:18 am to rebeloke
No, humans do not have free will. When you are born you are faced with choices and decisions immediately.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:19 am to rebeloke
Time is cyclical. We have already made, are making, and will make all of our decisions all at the same time.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 10:19 am
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:20 am to Chad504boy
Hopefully his destiny is a permaban and soon.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:20 am to rebeloke
Infinitely diverging timelines. Every possible outcome occurs.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:20 am to rebeloke
I believe choices have consequences, and I also believe there is nothing i can do stop the sun from coming up tomorrow.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:23 am to rebeloke
I believe in free will, but theres already a plan in place based on which path we choose. So, to answer your question, i believe in a little of both
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:23 am to Bmath
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I can tell you that our mental state is much more complex than most people realize. Our brain processes many different stimuli subconsciously, and thus we tend to act more impulsively rather than actively make a choice. So in a sense, we really have very limited free will.
This is as close to a correct answer as I think you'll get. Essentially, thoughts appear and we respond to them. It's not that they are fated, just that given we can actually see the brain working prior to us consciously feeling as though we've made a decision, it's clear that in many ways we're more a passenger of our own thoughts that the driver.
Doesn't mean we can't make choices, just that we're limited by tons and tons of factors that we never really take into account that basically make many of them for us and then we go along with them with the feeling it was all us.
Kind of cool actually...
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:24 am to Jim Rockford
quote:Possible, but that still makes the concept largely meaningless.
Infinitely diverging timelines. Every possible outcome occurs.
You exist only in one of the infinite timelines and therefore your decisions have only one endgame. That makes it sound as if fate is the correct choice, but the timeline diverges infinitely at each decision/choice, adding the element of free will.
Like I said though, it really doesn't matter.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:26 am to Scruffy
Scruffy explains it well. I believe that the idea of free will only exists to make us feel like we have choices. In our own minds, we do. However, if you believe that God is omniscient, you understand that He sees everything from beginning to end, so all is predestined. The real question for me is, does God's knowledge of my choice make it any less of a choice?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:34 am to High C
Knowledge of the future makes is definite or determined. It could been determined as result of choice or predestination.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:41 am to rebeloke
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Do you believe in fate or are things open to choice?
Anything is possible, but only 1 thing will happen and that thing cannot be changed.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 10:52 am to High C
quote:No. Knowing the results of an event only matters if it offers the opportunity to act on that knowledge.
oes God's knowledge of my choice make it any less of a choice?
Knowing the outcome of an event prior to its occurance, but lacking the ability to do anything with that knowledge makes the situation no different than if you didn't know that information at all.
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