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Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:11 am to MLSter
Yes, most humans choose to move through the well rutted ground.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:13 am to rebeloke
Is there a way to just not see what a certain other user posts?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:13 am to rebeloke
We are products of our individual brain chemistries. Free will doesn't exist.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:17 am to rebeloke
Free will verses Predeterminism is in and of itself a flawed concept/argument.
Its like trying to describe a 3 dimensional world through 2 dimensional senses.
deal with it.
Its like trying to describe a 3 dimensional world through 2 dimensional senses.
deal with it.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:19 am to rebeloke
DNA and socialization and your upbringing all cause you to respond in ways you have no control over. life is very complex and there is no predestination.
but if you are born in Papua New Guinea and your parents have 10% non-homo-sapien DNA, you are not playing with the same full deck most Euros get.
If your parents have AIDS and you come out of the womb with AIDs, that's not predestination, its a bad hand you were dealt. but God did not decide you should have AIDS.
Let's say you are Basque and have more than 5% Neanderthal DNA and a great immune system and a new bird flu comes around, & you don't even get it and your 99.99% homo sapiens neighbors all die.
is that predestination or just luck of the draw. I say its mere luck.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:21 am to daltonvol
quote:So I am predestined to open rebeloke threads?
We are products of our individual brain chemistries. Free will doesn't exist.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:44 am to Kafka
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So I am predestined to open rebeloke threads?
Seems like it.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:47 am to High C
quote:quote:Seems like it
So I am predestined to open rebeloke threads?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:50 am to Jim Rockford
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Infinitely diverging timelines. Every possible outcome occurs.
This
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:52 am to rebeloke
I was predestined to be a baw, and a baw I have become
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:57 am to rebeloke
I don't understand how people can fail to see that arguing against the existence of free will is arguing against the existence of reason. If all of our thoughts are caused purely by physical processes that we have no control over, then logic cannot and does not form the basis of our beliefs, and any discussion about anything is pointless.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 11:59 am to rebeloke
Free will.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:07 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Your username contradicts you.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:08 pm to rebeloke
I've already decided everything.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 12:53 pm to rebeloke
There is free will, but you are not in control of it. Your brain stores "data" from past experiences and processes it in the background to deal with current experiences. So your brain is making the decisions, but you (the person who might reply to this physically) do not make those decisions. You merely act them out.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:44 pm to rebeloke
I've read that a growing body of research is indicating that we don't have free will, but this determinism should not be confused with fatalism. It's true that, given known stimuli and the known structure and chemistry of the person's brain, it may be possible to predict with 100% accuracy what they will do. This indicates that their actions are in fact determined by these factors, so technically they are not exercising free will.
This is not the same as fatalism, in which a person believes himself to have no free will and that therefore his ultimate action is inevitable, so he foregoes any process of trying to direct his action or even caring what he does.
Even if your actions are determined by your brain chemistry and structure and the stimuli to which you are subjected, you still have the ability to consider your options, and that process of considering options is itself another stimulus which affects your actions. So, by subjecting yourself to this additional stimulus you can actually change what your final action will be and, in a sense, exercise a sort of free will or at least something that is effectively substitutable for free will and accomplishes the same thing.
This is not the same as fatalism, in which a person believes himself to have no free will and that therefore his ultimate action is inevitable, so he foregoes any process of trying to direct his action or even caring what he does.
Even if your actions are determined by your brain chemistry and structure and the stimuli to which you are subjected, you still have the ability to consider your options, and that process of considering options is itself another stimulus which affects your actions. So, by subjecting yourself to this additional stimulus you can actually change what your final action will be and, in a sense, exercise a sort of free will or at least something that is effectively substitutable for free will and accomplishes the same thing.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:07 pm to rebeloke
The world operates according to probabilistic rather than deterministic parameters. I think there's probably room for free will in probability theory, within a certain set of constraints, of course.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:20 pm to rebeloke
If everything is fate, then it was determined that I will type this sentence ever since the creation: "Peepee poop burgers slathered in nipple chow."
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:27 pm to Pectus
If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.
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