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re: Do you Believe In An Afterlife?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:37 pm to Jake88
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:37 pm to Jake88
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Something that serves as proof.
Meaning what? What’s your definition of proof? Do you consider circumstantial evidence or only physical evidence to be evidence of any given circumstance or scenario?
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 2:38 pm
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:39 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:Both can be.
Do you consider circumstantial evidence or only physical evidence to be evidence of any given circumstance or scenario?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:40 pm to LegndarySnipes
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I was a sperm before I was a human. thank God i was the fastest swimmer in the bunch
You were a champion before you were born.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:42 pm to Jake88
Just as the concept of there being an afterlife is beyond you or others’ ability to explain at the time.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:52 pm to Jake88
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Both can be.
Okay cool. Let’s continue from there. Do you think it’s at least plausible that our finely tuned and perishable universe was created?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:54 pm to JiminyCricket
I didn't say there wasnt an afterlife. Just that dreams about a deceased son and Jesus is not evidence of it. That's all.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:00 pm to Globetrotter747
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People have credited deities for things they don’t understand for millennia. Thunder, lightning, mental disorders, total eclipses, etc. Science has discarded many things that were once ignorantly attributed to deities. In all likelihood, anything we don’t know today will be answered tomorrow - or may just be unanswerable for us. And that’s okay. It really is. The history of science has shown us that supernatural speculation is a poor approach.
This is a misrepresentation of the creationism approach.
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There doesn’t have to be a particular reason or purpose beyond organizational forces such as gravity.
But there does have to be a means to how nothingness with no gravity became something with gravity. That’s the point. How did we get gravity?
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:14 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:no there doesn't. if a creator is required, who/what created the creator? if nothing, than the creator came from nothing. if so, why cant gravity come from nothing? if the creator had no beginning and always was, why not gravity?
But there does have to be a means to how nothingness with no gravity became something with gravity
Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:24 pm to cgrand
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no there doesn't. if a creator is required, who/what created the creator? if nothing, than the creator came from nothing. if so, why cant gravity come from nothing? if the creator had no beginning and always was, why not gravity?
The universe is not eternal, it had a beginning. If the universe had a beginning, that means something had to start it. That something has to be immaterial, timeless, and spaceless because none of time, space nor matter existed before existence. This means that whatever force kick started the universe was not created but is eternal.
Gravity is a property of our universe meaning it exists inside our universe similar to how time exists in our universe. Gravity is not eternal therefore it must have been created. If gravity were eternal, what did it act upon, where did it act upon it and when did it act upon it before time, space and matter existed?
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:36 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:we dont know that. we do know that in its current iteration, it appears to have have a single point of origin. we do not in any way know what happened before that
The universe is not eternal, it had a beginning.
quote:again, we dont know that, and you'll need to define "existence"
because none of time, space nor matter existed before existence
quote:of course...it is observable and defineable. that does not mean it cannot be eternal
Gravity is a property of our universe meaning it exists inside our universe similar to how time exists in our universe
quote:see above...we dont know that
Gravity is not eternal therefore it must have been created.
who/what created the creator? why is it not so much simpler to say that we dont know the answer to these things, we may never know, and not speak with certainty about them until we do know?
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 9/26/25 at 4:00 pm to JiminyCricket
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This is a misrepresentation of the creationism approach.
Not really. It still boils down to I don’t understand it thus it must have been a deity
Posted on 9/26/25 at 4:00 pm to JiminyCricket
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This is a misrepresentation of the creationism approach.
No, it’s not.
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But there does have to be a means to how nothingness with no gravity became something with gravity. That’s the point. How did we get gravity?
Gravity is indentations in spacetime created by objects with mass.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 4:35 pm to Boodis Man
I believe the DMT that’s released in our brains when we die pushes us into whatever future consciousness we believe we are going to. Science.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 4:53 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:God knew the exact time you were going to exist before the earth was created.
but God knew we were going to exist at some point in time
Posted on 9/26/25 at 4:56 pm to JiminyCricket
God created everything upon his decision. No magic booms in the sky. No chance meeting between a rock and galaxy dust. Nope. God is sovereign.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 5:19 pm to kajunman
quote:but what if He created the boom?
God created everything upon his decision. No magic booms in the sky.
Boom shacka lacka
Posted on 9/26/25 at 5:24 pm to JiminyCricket
Absolutely do.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 5:37 pm to GreenRockTiger
there were no booms
God created all things. He didn't leave anything to chance.
God created all things. He didn't leave anything to chance.
Posted on 9/26/25 at 5:53 pm to kajunman
quote:we estimate that close to 99% of all species that have ever lived on this planet are now extinct. 65 million years ago, an impact event from either a comet nucleus or meteor caused a global extinction event of almost 75% of known extant species on earth. approximately 250 million years ago, the permian extinction event, caused by massive vulcanism, killed off 90% of all species alive at the time. we observe the evidence for these in the fossil record.
God created all things. He didn't leave anything to chance.
none of that was by chance? god directed mass murder on his beloved planet? over and over again?
Posted on 9/26/25 at 6:01 pm to EphesianArmor
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Omnipotent and Omnificent
Not trolling at all, but why does God let innocent children die?
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