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re: Do we have it completely backwards when we say “kids are so soft today?”
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:31 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:31 pm to lsupride87
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parents
Get the women off of social media with anything regarding their kids. Problem solved.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:47 pm to LNCHBOX
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Absolutely not, because I lived it and know my parents cared. Yes I had freedom to roam the neighborhood. But I was given a good education, the opportunity to do sports/after school stuff, spent a good amount of time doing things with my parents etc. And damn near all of my friends and peers of teh time had the same.
You take is shitty. Maybe your parents didn't give a shite about you But I know mine cared about me
So I agree completely...this is exactly my take. That being said I do not discount that at least some of their lack of engagement might have been based on simply not giving a frick. It was certainly true for some kids of the era.
Remove you own personal experience from the equation. If you read a story about a kid today living in a suburban setting who, in summer, when school was out, left the house at say 0730 and did not return until 1900 and their parents had no real idea where the kid was all day, what he was up to and who he may have been around, you would immediately conclude that the parents were emotionally attached to the kid and were completely and totally concerned with his well being?
Now imagine that same kid does this for, I don't know, 3 weeks straight without incident and then, being a kid, breaks a window out of the neighbors house with a baseball or a BB gun (we did that sort of shite back in the day). The parents all of a sudden are very concerned with where the kid was, what he was doing and who he was with. Is that a sudden new found level of concern for the kids well-being or is it more associated with the parents being embarrassed, it's costing them some money or it is inconvenient?
It could be that our parents were just not very bright. They may have though it was entirely possible that our being away from home and out of sight and out of mind for long periods of time was not indicative of us doing stupid shite that could end our lives or the lives of others or simply destroy property. The fact that we did indeed do stupid shite and did indeed come close to ending our life or the lives of others and destroyed property in the process sort of lays the lie to them no knowing and points more to them not caring until it caused them some discomfort. I am just saying.....its not out of the realm of possibility that they could have cared a little bit more LOL....
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:55 pm to lsupride87
I see them routinely tell school staff and administrators to go frick themselves and little happens.
When I was in school the coaches would beat our asses with paddles, then make us bear crawl for 400 yards.
These kids ARE soft. Most seem to lack work ethic and have no ability to regulate their emotions or control their impulses.
When I was in school the coaches would beat our asses with paddles, then make us bear crawl for 400 yards.
These kids ARE soft. Most seem to lack work ethic and have no ability to regulate their emotions or control their impulses.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:57 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Remove you own personal experience from the equation. If you read a story about a kid today living in a suburban setting who, in summer, when school was out, left the house at say 0730 and did not return until 1900 and their parents had no real idea where the kid was all day, what he was up to and who he may have been around, you would immediately conclude that the parents were emotionally attached to the kid and were completely and totally concerned with his well being?
Now imagine that same kid does this for, I don't know, 3 weeks straight without incident and then, being a kid, breaks a window out of the neighbors house with a baseball or a BB gun (we did that sort of shite back in the day). The parents all of a sudden are very concerned with where the kid was, what he was doing and who he was with. Is that a sudden new found level of concern for the kids well-being or is it more associated with the parents being embarrassed, it's costing them some money or it is inconvenient?
It could be that our parents were just not very bright. They may have though it was entirely possible that our being away from home and out of sight and out of mind for long periods of time was not indicative of us doing stupid shite that could end our lives or the lives of others or simply destroy property. The fact that we did indeed do stupid shite and did indeed come close to ending our life or the lives of others and destroyed property in the process sort of lays the lie to them no knowing and points more to them not caring until it caused them some discomfort. I am just saying.....its not out of the realm of possibility that they could have cared a little bit more LOL....
fricking Christ dude
The underlined still happens every day with all the new age parents that "care" according to you. 
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:59 pm to lsupride87
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I often think about todays youth
Have they weathered 2 World Wars
C19 was much less fatal than Spanish Flu
What about a Great Depression
What about a Dust Bowl
They are soft as Charmin
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:05 pm to lsupride87
Social media and technology has made a large percentage of kids void of any social skills. Add in parents that want success for their kid but blame any short comings on their teacher or coach and you have a recipe for a soft, entitled kid that doesn't know how to handle any small problem that comes their way. Technology has also made them lazy. It's harder than ever to be a kid and it's our fault.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:11 pm to lsupride87
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I just don’t know how anyone can say this
Parents are involved and do so much shite now compared to when I was growing up.
Yep and it’s hilarious to hear older people say it. It’s pretty much quantifiably proven that parents today are way more involved in their children’s day to day lives than they were 30-50 years ago.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:12 pm to Cheese Grits
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Have they weathered 2 World Wars
C19 was much less fatal than Spanish Flu
What about a Great Depression
What about a Dust Bowl
They are soft as Charmin
What stupid logic is this.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:16 pm to lsupride87
My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery.
My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.
My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it.
My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.
My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:22 pm to lsupride87
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I don’t know if it’s just a rebound from the boomer generation raising kids absentee, but Millenials as a whole need to back off a bit and not make life for kids so damn stressful. Let them be kids and have their only “worries” be getting back in time for supper
frick yes. I help coach my son’s baseball team and I love watching my daughter play all her sports but I don’t help coach any.
I have stopped asking them about practice or how they felt they performed if they want to talk about it, I will let them bring it up and first offer support and let them know how proud of their effort I am and then offer advice.
Some parents take winning and losing at elementary school sports way too damned seriously.
Eta
Grades are non negotiable. My kids are capable of straight A’s, that’s my expectation. Getting a B for the quarter in one subject is acceptable but they better have amazing grades in everything else.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:28 pm to lsupride87
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That was my view of growing up in the 80s/90s I think it’s a very very lazy trope to say parents now are lazier or softer. They seem way more involved overall and expectations are raised It’s like everyone is hyper aware of “the future” and they are preparing 8 year olds for their career
Parents are over-involved socially and athletically. Things are too organized. Kids don’t have unstructured time with no digital entertainment. Kids don’t have enough freedom to roam except those still stuck in small towns, many don’t want to roam. Those are all facts, don’t care how good of a job you’re doing, I see none of my cohort of millenial/genx parents whose kids don’t fit that mold.
Relative to the school dynamic and preparing for the future—I see no way around this. Competition for good colleges has never been higher and the costs have soared to unreasonable highs. I am making huge investments in their schooling to give them a shot to get out ahead and be set up for a good career launch when it happens. The demands are way higher than what was placed on me, and I give not one frick. I have no problem pushing them until they damn near break if I have to, because that’s what the world is going to do to them if they want to maintain their quality of life on their own
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:34 pm to Wabbit7
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It’s pretty much quantifiably proven that parents today are way more involved in their children’s day to day lives than they were 30-50 years ago.
I think this is why they're soft. My generation grew up pretty much feral.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:35 pm to lsupride87
How good is he at Smear the Queer?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:36 pm to OldSouth
quote:damn that hits different just reading this
Sometimes I think about how often I tell my kids to “hurry up”.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:36 pm to Tantal
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I think this is why they're soft. My generation grew up pretty much feral.
I’m not sure it makes them soft as mush as it retards the development of conflict resolution and problem solving skills, and limits their ability to organize and structure groups without adult intervention and guidance.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:40 pm to lsupride87
I know my parents were not at all as involved as parents are today and I think that alone adds stress. I remember in middle school we had to do a Christmas and Spring play every year. I went to a small Catholic school in middle school. It was one class per grade and in fact my 7th and 8th grade year the 7th and 8th grade was one class so everyone had to be in it.
My parents had to bring me so they would go to the play and I was so god damn nervous because they were their that I dreaded those damn plays from the moment we started practicing them.
Then you go to a baseball game today and there are kids whose parents, grandparents, an aunt or uncle goes sometimes. And if one of those people who go watch a kid is someone who will make a scene, I have to think that makes things tense for the kid.
Or if its someone who is always making excuses for the kid. Then that kid might be less likely to try as hard or whatever.
And today, there is so much bullshite that surrounds them. There are award ceremonies every 9 weeks, it really is all just too much. These kids need to interact with each other, in person, without electronics, more. And even as teenagers, there is no just getting away. Parents are tracking their every move.
When I went to Catholic school for 4 years, I hated it because I had so much more homework than all my friends in my neighborhood. I had this one teacher who would give us a lot of homework during holidays, weekends, etc. I was a C student because I half arse did homework. And I remember going back to school on those Mondays and being so worried because I knew punish work or getting yelled at was coming. And that was nothing to the shite kids have to worry about today.
Its just a completely different world today. And are kids smarter today than they were 20-30 years ago?
My parents had to bring me so they would go to the play and I was so god damn nervous because they were their that I dreaded those damn plays from the moment we started practicing them.
Then you go to a baseball game today and there are kids whose parents, grandparents, an aunt or uncle goes sometimes. And if one of those people who go watch a kid is someone who will make a scene, I have to think that makes things tense for the kid.
Or if its someone who is always making excuses for the kid. Then that kid might be less likely to try as hard or whatever.
And today, there is so much bullshite that surrounds them. There are award ceremonies every 9 weeks, it really is all just too much. These kids need to interact with each other, in person, without electronics, more. And even as teenagers, there is no just getting away. Parents are tracking their every move.
When I went to Catholic school for 4 years, I hated it because I had so much more homework than all my friends in my neighborhood. I had this one teacher who would give us a lot of homework during holidays, weekends, etc. I was a C student because I half arse did homework. And I remember going back to school on those Mondays and being so worried because I knew punish work or getting yelled at was coming. And that was nothing to the shite kids have to worry about today.
Its just a completely different world today. And are kids smarter today than they were 20-30 years ago?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:42 pm to LNCHBOX
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fricking Christ dude The underlined still happens every day with all the new age parents that "care" according to you.
I never said parents today care more than ours did. They are more involved for certain but that ain't caring. If they are like ours were and more or less totally unaware of where we were or what we were doing for long periods of time daily they will certainly be viewed by most people as not caring for their kids...to the point that the authorities will probably get involved when the kid does something a kid is liable to do....
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:43 pm to OweO
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I know my parents were not at all as involved as parents are today and I think that alone adds stress. I remember in middle school we had to do a Christmas and Spring play every year. I went to a small Catholic school in middle school. It was one class per grade and in fact my 7th and 8th grade year the 7th and 8th grade was one class so everyone had to be in it. My parents had to bring me so they would go to the play and I was so god damn nervous because they were their that I dreaded those damn plays from the moment we started practicing them. Then you go to a baseball game today and there are kids whose parents, grandparents, an aunt or uncle goes sometimes. And if one of those people who go watch a kid is someone who will make a scene, I have to think that makes things tense for the kid. Or if its someone who is always making excuses for the kid. Then that kid might be less likely to try as hard or whatever. And today, there is so much bullshite that surrounds them. There are award ceremonies every 9 weeks, it really is all just too much. These kids need to interact with each other, in person, without electronics, more. And even as teenagers, there is no just getting away. Parents are tracking their every move. When I went to Catholic school for 4 years, I hated it because I had so much more homework than all my friends in my neighborhood. I had this one teacher who would give us a lot of homework during holidays, weekends, etc. I was a C student because I half arse did homework. And I remember going back to school on those Mondays and being so worried because I knew punish work or getting yelled at was coming. And that was nothing to the shite kids have to worry about today. Its just a completely different world today. And are kids smarter today than they were 20-30 years ago?
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by OweO
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:45 pm to AwgustaDawg
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I never said parents today care more than ours did
Too pussy to even own your posts
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and the dirty little secret none of us likes to admit is that they did not know where we were or what we were up to is because they couldn't care less where we were or what we were up to as long as it did not embarrass them, cost them any money or cause them the slightest bit of trouble or discomfort.
These are your words
quote:You're all over the place.
They are more involved for certain but that ain't caring
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:46 pm to SuperSaint
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SuperSaint
You were someone's bitch in prison..
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