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re: Do Roundabouts work?

Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:47 am to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:47 am to
Way too many dumbasses have no clue how a roundabout works. One in Walker is the perfect example of that.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70110 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:49 am to
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Way too many dumbasses have no clue how a roundabout works.


They have started installing them in Georgia all over the place. Mostly in small counties and roads. Its amazing watching older people try to navigate them.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:50 am to
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I wish it were possible to replace every red light with one. Roundabouts are God’s answer to people like me who like to keep moving in traffic.

I think one of the important factors in the success/failure of a roundabout is to install them on a stretch of road where the difference between the posted speed limit and the reduced speed of the roundabout is minimal.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:51 am to
Yes studies have proven this
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:56 am to
I can't count the number of times I've seen people ride in the middle of both lanes, come in flying and end up off the road, or get in the wrong lane then have to cut someone else off to get over. It is clearly marked everywhere.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:27 am to
Of all the roundabouts you've approached, does the signage clearly spell out that those already in the roundabout have the right-of-way?? Any exceptions? I would think the DoTD would not assume everybody already knows this.
Posted by BamaMan45
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1695 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:45 am to
The fact that it drops conflict points from 26 to 14 within the interchange is incredible. I think the video said it reduced collisions by over 50% which would be a godsend to people in Louisiana. With so many distractions for drivers these days, engineers need to be taking these factors into account and so their best to minimize collision opportunities and reduce the possibility of head on collisions whenever possible.

Also if you look around the 1:10 mark in that video, they diverging diamond they show in Fayette, Kentucky showed the DDI on an underpass. I wonder which configuration would be easierur cheaper to build? (Underpass DDI vs Overpass DDI)
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14921 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:54 am to
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Going out on a limb here and saying it's probably too expensive to retrofit an existing interchange with similar dynamics to the one in the video.

There was one here that they retrofitted to a DDI.
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Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6044 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:55 am to
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roundabouts


You people

:tinhat:

The roundabout is a corporate agenda. When the world moves to self-driving, vehicles will not have to apply brakes thereby severally increasing fuel efficiency. Acceleration from 0-25mph has the worst fuel efficiency, so for every roundabout you have 1,000's of pennies saved per day. The cost savings is extremely substantial on a daily basis when you expand that over the entire US.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
44008 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:14 am to
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Do roundabouts move traffic better than traditional 4-way stops or traffic light intersections?


Yes and they are not subject to power outages. I lived through six or 7 tropical storms and hurricanes when I lived in the Caribbean. It was so nice to not have to worry about traffic jams (i.e. BR for a month after Gustav in '08) after the storms. Just clear the debris from the roundabout and bam it works again. Every intersection in states that are in hurricane areas should be replaced with roundabouts.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45082 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:16 am to
Yes, but you will get fricking killed if the diameter is not large enough.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6759 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:17 am to
The roundabout at 1077/1085 came straight from God himself. That fricking garbage redlight made me feel bad for the poor souls that lived with that mess for years.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
44008 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:33 am to
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I don't have statistics


I do

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Roundabouts are safer than traditional intersections for one big reason: Fewer conflict points. Think about how many places traffic can cross paths at a signaled intersection. There are a lot — 32 to be exact. In a roundabout there are only eight such places, greatly reducing the potential for collisions [source: Nevada Department of Transportation, "Roundabout Benefits"].

What's more, their design, with one-way traffic and angled entry lanes, reduces the chance of dangerous T-bone or head-on collisions to zero. Roundabouts also have a slowing effect, forcing drivers to brake as they navigate around the central island and eliminating the impulse to speed up and beat a traffic light [source: Washington State Department of Transportation, "Roundabout Benefits"].

All these features can produce dramatic safety improvements. A 2000 study that looked at 24 newly constructed roundabouts across the United States revealed a 76 percent decrease in injury crashes, a 90 percent decrease in fatal or incapacitating crashes and a 39 percent reduction in overall crashes [source: FHWA, "Roundabouts"]. Pennywise city budgeters will also find a lot to love in roundabouts. While the cost to construct a roundabout is similar to that of a signaled intersection, the cost to maintain the circular intersection is much lower. Traffic lights cost about $5,000 to $10,000 in yearly maintenance and have a lifespan of 15 to 20 years. Compare that to a roundabout, which lasts about 25 years and has none of the hardware, maintenance and electrical costs of signals [sources: WSDOT, "Roundabout Benefits" and NDOT, "Roundabout Benefits"].

Of course, safety and cost savings are great and all, but it's the reduction in traffic congestion that gets the public most excited about roundabouts. With no stop signs or traffic lights to halt traffic, roundabouts promote a continuous flow of vehicles that can really reduce delays — anywhere from 13 to 90 percent depending on the intersection [sources: WSDOT, "Roundabout Benefits" and NDOT, "Roundabout Benefits"]. That's good news for Earth, too: Improved vehicular flow reduces fuel consumption and greenhouse gas emissions by 30 percent or more in some cases [source: NDOT, "Roundabout Benefits"]. And even if you did get delayed in a roundabout, at least you could admire the landscaping on the central island, an aesthetic improvement over the unbroken concrete in a traditional intersection.
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10-90% congestion reduction and they save lives. The only downside is that stupid people like the drivers in Louisiana are not smart enough to figure out how to use them.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:41 am to
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Of all the roundabouts you've approached, does the signage clearly spell out that those already in the roundabout have the right-of-way??

I followed the directions and stopped at a stop sign. Now, who gets to go first, cross traffic or I? I'm so confused! THE SIGN DOESN'T TELL ME!
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 10:44 am
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6044 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:52 am to
There is no yield sign?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:54 am to
Single lane roundabouts are fantastic
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:06 am to
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There is no yield sign?

IT'S JUST BIG AND RED AND SAYS "STOP"!
Posted by warlock1974
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2015
1822 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:13 am to
I was on vacation recently in a country that has a lot of them. It seemed that every intersection except those that tee had a roundabout in it and it was very smooth and keep traffic moving.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33282 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:30 am to
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yes, when people understand how to use them


bingo

Plus, they must be applied under the right circumstances…..convergent volumes, etc.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10086 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:32 am to
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Do roundabouts move traffic better than traditional 4-way stops or traffic light intersections?


Before the roundabout on Florida Blvd, I would have a break in traffic due to redlights and was able to pull out of my neighborhood fairly easy in the mornings...Since our roundabouts completion, there is literally a non stop flow of traffic in the mornings now and it takes a little bit of defensive driving on my part
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