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re: Do people with "real" degrees respect people with online degrees?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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The only people that discuss finances are trashy people that somehow lucked into making decent money.
Sounds like something poor people say. If you don't tell people how much money you make, it's because you don't make any.
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:46 am to TigrrrDad
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My daughter's boyfriend's mom did the online thing - her son took all of her tests. Online degrees = not legit.
B.S., not for a accredited school, most all require use of online video proctoring service, or require exams to be taken at approved testing centers.
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This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:52 am to lsuwontonwrap
As with any college check to see if it is an accredited university that is recognized.
As a person who earned a Master's Degree online it is the same with anything else. Once you have a degree you have to market yourself. I know people who have gotten degrees from some sketchy places and are doing quite well.
I also know people who have Master's Degrees from well-respected universities and haven't begun to sniff a viable career.
Usually the people who are sitting on their butt at home without a job after getting a degree are lazy and have done the bare minimum (if that) trying to get a job.
It's all about selling yourself and learning how to network.
https://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Search.aspx
As a person who earned a Master's Degree online it is the same with anything else. Once you have a degree you have to market yourself. I know people who have gotten degrees from some sketchy places and are doing quite well.
I also know people who have Master's Degrees from well-respected universities and haven't begun to sniff a viable career.
Usually the people who are sitting on their butt at home without a job after getting a degree are lazy and have done the bare minimum (if that) trying to get a job.
It's all about selling yourself and learning how to network.
https://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Search.aspx
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:55 pm to lsuwontonwrap
A degree in business or tech or whatever is still more respectable than a degree in women gender studies, sociology, liberal arts or whatever feminist or liberal bullshite from any major university.
It's not always about where you study, but what you study.
It's not always about where you study, but what you study.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:55 pm to AubieALUMdvm
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Ultimately people respect the person and their results, not some piece of paper.
This. There are plenty of fools with fancy degrees.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:07 pm to lsuwontonwrap
As an employer, I would certainly look at it sideways!
Posted on 10/1/17 at 3:44 pm to 2geaux
You wont know. Just pick a school that is local, rather that southern new hampshire or pheonix
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:02 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Master of Engineering online from Georgia Tech? Cool.
Bachelor of Arts online from University of Phoenix? GTFO.
I don't give a shite whether you got your degree in residence or not. I give a shite whether you're smart enough to know if the degree you're paying for is worth the time and effort to get it. It doesn't matter if it's online or not if you get a shite degree that qualifies you to be my barista.
Bachelor of Arts online from University of Phoenix? GTFO.
I don't give a shite whether you got your degree in residence or not. I give a shite whether you're smart enough to know if the degree you're paying for is worth the time and effort to get it. It doesn't matter if it's online or not if you get a shite degree that qualifies you to be my barista.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:05 pm to lsuwontonwrap
I teach online and in person classes at a small traditional brick and mortar college.
Very little difference in quality of students.
Strayer, Capella, those type of schools- crap.
I took some of my doctoral classes online. I had to login to Proctor U and talk to a person who was viewing my license on a webcam.
Very little difference in quality of students.
Strayer, Capella, those type of schools- crap.
I took some of my doctoral classes online. I had to login to Proctor U and talk to a person who was viewing my license on a webcam.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 4:26 pm to Tigris
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This. There are plenty of fools with fancy degrees.
Agree - I have a cousin with a wall full of diplomas and he's the biggest jackwad you will ever meet. He's been a "consultant" all his life while his jackwadish wife works to support him.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:16 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Some of the people I have THE MOST respect for have no degree.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:55 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Yes, when they're boss
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:01 pm to DaBike
Two of my good friends in grad school had undergraduate degrees from the University of Maryland. One spent 4 years at the brick and mortar location. The other got his in 2.5 years while in the Air Force stationed in England - he literally never set foot on campus.
They obviously didn't know each other prior to grad school, but their degrees got them into the same program, and looking at the diplomas side by side, looked the exact same.
So, if that's the way they work these days, I'd have no problem with the online option.
They obviously didn't know each other prior to grad school, but their degrees got them into the same program, and looking at the diplomas side by side, looked the exact same.
So, if that's the way they work these days, I'd have no problem with the online option.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:30 pm to FalseProphet
That's how it works generally from brick and mortar schools. The asterisk of online programs has gone by the wayside.
Undoubtedly, there is more to college or grad school than just he piece of paper but it does make a lot of sense for efficiently gaining a credential.
Undoubtedly, there is more to college or grad school than just he piece of paper but it does make a lot of sense for efficiently gaining a credential.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:32 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Here is the heart of the issue: education is not a protected class. For hiring managers, the easiest way to parse out the 'ya's' from the 'nay's' is to toss the online degrees. When you have from 200 to 1,000 applicants, you can see the need to eliminate the pile for a criterion rapidly. Especially for beginning positions where the competition is much more fierce. Until the Congress decides that education is protected (which it probably never will), it's just the way of this cruel world.
I do a lot of hiring and I talk to others that also hire. I think this is a pretty standard practice, like it or not. I see it touted at conferences as one of the the easiest ways to eliminate a large percentage of your applicant pool as well. And they argue that this group of people will not be well-acclimated to working with people anyway and are extremely risk-averse. These are traits most hiring managers look for, not against.
I do a lot of hiring and I talk to others that also hire. I think this is a pretty standard practice, like it or not. I see it touted at conferences as one of the the easiest ways to eliminate a large percentage of your applicant pool as well. And they argue that this group of people will not be well-acclimated to working with people anyway and are extremely risk-averse. These are traits most hiring managers look for, not against.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:11 pm to lsuwontonwrap
It's a tough question.
1. Where is the degree from? If it's from a brick & mortar school, nobody will know the difference. I'm to the point I just about won't interview anyone with a University of Phoenix degree(or something similar from a for profit program) unless they have extensive work experience.
2. Is it an undergraduate degree or graduate degree? It's truly hard to replicate the in class experience you get from discussing real world application which you should get more of in a classroom in a masters program(not always).
3. I've found that the applicants and employees I work with that have gone through brick & mortar schools to be of a higher caliber than online programs(I'm mostly speaking of graduate degrees). That's a blind and unbiased opinion that I have gathered after the fact of getting to know them. There could be other factors contributing to that, but that has been my experience.
4. Work experience trumps everything IMO. In my field, graduate degrees show me one thing, you cared enough to try a little harder to advance yourself. Some are good enough and sharp enough at their craft to not need that advanced degree and their work speaks for itself, but many aren't, and I've found that the U of Phoenix types don't quite reach that high performer level.
1. Where is the degree from? If it's from a brick & mortar school, nobody will know the difference. I'm to the point I just about won't interview anyone with a University of Phoenix degree(or something similar from a for profit program) unless they have extensive work experience.
2. Is it an undergraduate degree or graduate degree? It's truly hard to replicate the in class experience you get from discussing real world application which you should get more of in a classroom in a masters program(not always).
3. I've found that the applicants and employees I work with that have gone through brick & mortar schools to be of a higher caliber than online programs(I'm mostly speaking of graduate degrees). That's a blind and unbiased opinion that I have gathered after the fact of getting to know them. There could be other factors contributing to that, but that has been my experience.
4. Work experience trumps everything IMO. In my field, graduate degrees show me one thing, you cared enough to try a little harder to advance yourself. Some are good enough and sharp enough at their craft to not need that advanced degree and their work speaks for itself, but many aren't, and I've found that the U of Phoenix types don't quite reach that high performer level.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:21 pm to ProfBones
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And they argue that this group of people will not be well-acclimated to working with people anyway and are extremely risk-averse. These are traits most hiring managers look for, not against.
It shows their limited knowledge of how online programs work, at least at the graduate level most online programs require large amounts of interaction among the students in the class, such as group projects, with can get interesting when some of the students in your group are in India, China, or some other place with a significant time difference.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:22 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Paging volod. Paging dr. Volod to the OT stat.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:10 pm to ProfBones
Well this was an odd post to bump up an 8 month old thread.
I have a friend who got his degree from Devry who said he cheated on every assignment. Any school without proctored exams is a joke.
I have in MS in agribusiness from an average state school. Even though I think I’m in good shape at my current company, I’d definitely consider an MBA from an elite school. There still really aren’t many top notch schools offering online MBA’s, I think UNC and Carnegie Melon are the highest ranked full time programs with a fully online version. I think Rice will begin offering one. Neither of those appeal to me enough to bother. If one of the top 15 offered it, I’d think about it.
I have a friend who got his degree from Devry who said he cheated on every assignment. Any school without proctored exams is a joke.
I have in MS in agribusiness from an average state school. Even though I think I’m in good shape at my current company, I’d definitely consider an MBA from an elite school. There still really aren’t many top notch schools offering online MBA’s, I think UNC and Carnegie Melon are the highest ranked full time programs with a fully online version. I think Rice will begin offering one. Neither of those appeal to me enough to bother. If one of the top 15 offered it, I’d think about it.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:36 pm to lsuwontonwrap
A guy that works in the same field as me has a "degree" from Harvard. Some kind of online degree. His biggest fear in life is getting called out for having a non-traditional degree.
He's made a ton of money, but everybody knows he's an unethical hack.
He's made a ton of money, but everybody knows he's an unethical hack.
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