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re: Do people use fraternity consultants?

Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:04 am to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:04 am to
Damn. He actually told you that? That’s not something he needs to be telling folks. In fact I’d create a committee within my fraternity to gather intelligence on any rushees who have retained something like this and automatically blackball them.
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:04 am to
Does your coworker actually want to use this guy or is he mocking it as well?
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:07 am to
There are MBA application consultants. You pay like $4,000 for them to consult you on how to send the best application to the Top 15 schools for essays or whatnot. That at least has a potential ROI, but I would never ever use them. I just did it myself.
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Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:16 am to
Getting into a good fraternity is not something you can hire a consultant for. You really have to have some kind of connection with someone to get a bid at a top fraternity. No consultant, especially this guy, is going to be able to form that. No kid at a top frat will say, yes consultant, send people to me to talk.

Unless he's taking the money from the rushees and funneling some to kids at those top frats to get them a bid. That's only way this would work.
Posted by MattA
Member since Nov 2019
2019 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:28 am to
I feel like I’m not even from the same planet as those who would hire professional dorm decorators or a frat consultant. I’m more concerned about how to afford shite like braces, clothes for all the kids, and other necessities lol.



I’ll go sit in the corner with the other poors now.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Some sororities are tougher to get into than the schools themselves.


Some girls will actually fricking transfer schools if they don’t get into the sorority that all their friends got into, though I believe that was more an Ole Miss thing where an insane amount of campus life was Greek.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Getting into a good fraternity is not something you can hire a consultant for. You really have to have some kind of connection with someone to get a bid at a top fraternity


Depends on the school and what the fraternity is looking for, though that is also a school by school thing.


Certain ones were more preppy, country, jock, etc, than others and people who fit the archetypes tended to drift those directions.


It was always possible to talk your way in or out of one, but personal connections (legacy, pipeline from your hometown, etc) always helped.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24177 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:38 am to
quote:


Some girls will actually fricking transfer schools if they don’t get into the sorority that all their friends got into, though I believe that was more an Ole Miss thing where an insane amount of campus life was Greek.


My wife knows a girl or two that have done this. Its sad. One of them was a complete piece of shite that didn't have her life together at all but was a legacy, instead of going for the sorority she should have gone for she only tried for the best where she was a legacy and didn't get a bid. That's typical ignorance by both the daughter and mom.

Greek life isn't that hard, if you aren't getting in where you want than you likely don't belong in the first place. Its fairly cut and dry. There's fraternities and sororities at every school that will basically accept anyone and if you can't get into them then I don't know what to say.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:43 am to
Part of the problem with formal rush is that everyone does cuts in phases and, if you are overconfident in your chances, you cut the ones who will take anyone because you think you are above them.

At that point you can end up with no bids at all and have to do open rush if they even do that for that system.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24177 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:45 am to
quote:


Part of the problem with formal rush is that everyone does cuts in phases and, if you are overconfident in your chances, you cut the ones who will take anyone because you think you are above them.

At that point you can end up with no bids at all and have to do open rush if they even do that for that system.


Agree. The other issue is that sorority rush is often before school even starts and fraternity rush is usually soon after school started. If they waited until mid semester or 2nd semester for freshmen most character issues and concerns would be worked out naturally.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103804 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:47 am to
quote:

If they waited until mid semester or 2nd semester for freshmen most character issues and concerns would be worked out naturally.


Definitely agree.


Lots of guys would go through an entire rush period only to not make grades and end up tossed as a result before initiation.


Having people around at least a semester wouldn’t eliminate that but certainly reduce it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61401 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:51 am to
Isn’t the bid process really good at fitting you w the group you are most comfortable with already. I’d hate my kid to be in the org he wants versus the one that wants him
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:52 am to
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Damn. He actually told you that? That’s not something he needs to be telling folks. In fact I’d create a committee within my fraternity to gather intelligence on any rushees who have retained something like this and automatically blackball them.


If you have the money to afford a consultant, they want you.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38669 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:53 am to
Sounds dumb for fraternities but for sororities it makes sense
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
91879 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:57 am to
new twist on the jokes on here about joining a frat to buy friends, this punk is hiring someone to find friends for him
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23079 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Do people use fraternity consultants?



Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110855 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:00 am to
quote:

If you have the money to afford a consultant, they want you.


Possibly until they actually find out your mama is paying for a "consultant" for you.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45523 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Do people use fraternity consultants?


If I was an active member in a fraternity today, I would "ball" any pledge that used a fraternity consultant.

If anyone thinking about rushing a fraternity is reading this here is some free advice. When you go to summer orientation find the Greek Life people (or go online) tell them you are interested in rushing. They will put your name on a list and people will reach out to you. If there is a specific fraternity that you are wanting to rush then get the contact information for the rush chair. Contact them and find out the details of when and where they are having a rush party. Go to the rush party and do not act like a douche or a loser. Go through rush and do not act like a douche or loser and you will get a bid. If you have a family member or know someone who is an alum of the chapter of the fraternity that you really want to get into ask that person to contact the rush chair. Who cares if it is the same mommy or daddy's circle when they went to school. My dad and grandfather were DKEs, my brother rushed Kappa Sig, my cousins were Kappa sigs (f**k sig btw), Sigma Nu, and Pike members, all of my friends from high school went Sigma Chi. I had letters of recommendations from alumni for all of those fraternities. None of them felt right. Kappa Sig just did not feel right, I was not comfortable doing drugs at the time and that seemed to be a requirement for EX at the time, and DKE was kicked off campus. KA felt right and ranking KA as my #1 was probably one of the best decision of my life. Did it affect my relationships with my relatives or high school friends? Not at all.

If you are someone who doesn't like traditional American values like smashing pussy, drinking, recreation drug use, community service, and/or cannot interact with society then you do not belong in a fraternity in the south which is ok. Greek life isn't for everyone. If it is not for you, don't worry everyone makes friends and finds a niche in college so you can tell mom and dad to not waste money on a consultant. Plus you can always choose to rush as a sophomore if you change your mind.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11051 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:33 am to
My fraternity chapter at Alabama is not even in the same stratosphere as far as being what it was when I pledged in 91. I was not really a fraternity kind of person in the sense that I didn’t really fit the mold. I had a military background which would continue after college and honestly was a NE LA redneck. However my dad was in the same fraternity so I was a legacy and that did help me get a bid because I am not sure I would have got a bid otherwise since I wasn’t exactly fratster material but using a consultant. That is laughable. If I was an active and found that out, that pledge would be cut and if this was early 90’s with no cell phones, probably hazed a bunch before that.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19257 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:35 am to
It would be a better idea to buy a beer for anyone here willing to write him a rec.
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