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re: Do any Christians get annoyed by the constant predictions of the rapture?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
Every time something bad happens in the world (which is basically all of the time), I have friends that suddenly become biblical scholars of Revelations...the most difficult and cryptic book in the Bible and they know precisely how to apply it in real time. Every draconian measure is a mark of the beast. Every bad actor in the world is the Anti Christ.
Like someone above said, only the Father knows when. And honestly, knowing when doesn’t even matter. If you’re a believer, just properly orient yourself and live your life as if it will happen in your lifetime and stop obsessing about it.
Like someone above said, only the Father knows when. And honestly, knowing when doesn’t even matter. If you’re a believer, just properly orient yourself and live your life as if it will happen in your lifetime and stop obsessing about it.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
Bible says Christ’s return will be like a thief in the night.
No one knows the hour or the day.
No one knows the hour or the day.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
I get annoyed because the Bible says no man knows the day or the hour of His return.
All these "predictions" (JW's, Harold Camping, "88 Reasons Why The Rapture Will Happen in 1988" -- which was followed by "89 Reasons Why The Rapture Will Happen in 1989") make Christians like me look bad.
It will come when He makes it happen. Whether a Rapture takes place or not, that's been debated for decades.
All these "predictions" (JW's, Harold Camping, "88 Reasons Why The Rapture Will Happen in 1988" -- which was followed by "89 Reasons Why The Rapture Will Happen in 1989") make Christians like me look bad.
It will come when He makes it happen. Whether a Rapture takes place or not, that's been debated for decades.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:30 pm to tiggerthetooth
Haven’t heard any predictions about the Rapture, but in my personal opinion, Jesus Christ will come back on a Jewish Holy day.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I've had multiple people tell me "this is the end, Jesus is coming back, just watch."
Did they say why it was during this particular pandemic rather than all the others, often much worse ones? Or times of genocide and other horrid times?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:35 pm to StupidBinder
Jesus is not going to literally come down out of the sky like a cosmic skydiver. It’s metaphorical and was never meant to be taken literally
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
I’m a Christian, and I have not seen anyone doing this.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:45 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Nah. The bible says constant predictions will come.
Do any Christians get annoyed
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:28 pm to tiggerthetooth
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tiggerthetooth
why does it bother you so that they can find peace through religion and you cant because you refuse god
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:The Bible clearly says a snatching away is coming. We are told to be ready for it, to watch diligently. Christ told a powerful parable to illustrate how important it is to watch. No amount if of caring about those suffering is going to change that event.
Is the rapture prediction a cop-out for doing nothing? Its like people want hell to break loose so it'll happen. Is that what the bible says?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:31 pm to Allthatfades
quote:No English words are in the original. The word Jesus is not even in the 1st edition King James translation. did your statement have a relevant point? The word used means snatching away. Doesn't matter what anyone calls it. The point is to communicate what we are to be watching for and not a specific word.
The interesting thing is that the word rapture isn’t even in the Bible
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:32 pm to dlmast87
quote:You are conflating different events. You are referencing Christ saying he doesn't know when he is returning. That is a reference to when he will return physically to earth to rule for 1000 years. The rapture is a different event that will occur 7 years before Christ's return to earth.
. It specifically says in the Bible that no one knows but The Father so why does every event have to be the end??
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
This is no rapture.
There will be no mistake when that time is upon us.
It will be mind boggling and hellish, but this is not it.
You can settle down now and not let those people get to you.
There will be no mistake when that time is upon us.
It will be mind boggling and hellish, but this is not it.
You can settle down now and not let those people get to you.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:16 pm to tiggerthetooth
It gets old. And I would suggest that those who make predictions are not true Christians as no one can predict when it will be. People making such predictions imo are usually suffering from either a mental disorder or it's their coping mechanism when they're scared.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:31 pm to tiggerthetooth
What the hell is the rapture?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:15 am to tiggerthetooth
I’m responding to OP title and didn’t read anything else but yes..
When God sees no fruit is being produced Is typically when things get real. But when fruit is being produced, he has great mercy. We have a billion Christians and millions of those are probably bearing fruit for witnessing and love.
That’s probably more “fruit” than has ever existed because of population. This logic always gives me pause on rapture type of stuff. But no one knows the exact end time, not even Jesus so it’s all speculation in the end. Be alert but not clairvoyant!
When God sees no fruit is being produced Is typically when things get real. But when fruit is being produced, he has great mercy. We have a billion Christians and millions of those are probably bearing fruit for witnessing and love.
That’s probably more “fruit” than has ever existed because of population. This logic always gives me pause on rapture type of stuff. But no one knows the exact end time, not even Jesus so it’s all speculation in the end. Be alert but not clairvoyant!
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:45 am to tiggerthetooth
Absolutely
I was at a Bible study a few weeks ago when one of the older men I actually have a lot of respect for went on about it
My issue with it, besides the part where there’s really no point in speculating too much on it bc nobody knows, is that if you are trying to spread the word and gain believers it’s a pretty terrible tactic to take. Most unbelievers, and maybe some believers, are going to write you off as a crazy person if you start ranting about Jesus coming back soon
Not to mention, I don’t personally believe in trying to scare someone into faith. Just doesn’t work very well
I was at a Bible study a few weeks ago when one of the older men I actually have a lot of respect for went on about it
My issue with it, besides the part where there’s really no point in speculating too much on it bc nobody knows, is that if you are trying to spread the word and gain believers it’s a pretty terrible tactic to take. Most unbelievers, and maybe some believers, are going to write you off as a crazy person if you start ranting about Jesus coming back soon
Not to mention, I don’t personally believe in trying to scare someone into faith. Just doesn’t work very well
Posted on 4/3/20 at 2:14 am to tiggerthetooth
As long as there has been man, there have been tales of the end. It’s woven into all of our myths and legends and religions. Ragnarok. Revelations. All of them have a gloom and doom end times prophecy, whether it be Jörmungandr thrashing, a 7 headed dragon devouring the whore of Babylon, or Vishnu riding in with the apocalypse upon his back.
And the wailing and waiting is nothing new. Be it marauding visigoths sacking Rome, or Atilla’s horde of Huns. Ottomans at the gates of Constantinople or Mongols burning Baghdad.
It’s come in the form of plague, pestilence and famine countless times. It wears many masks, and its harbingers come with it. Street preachers and proselytizers call upon it with maddened glee.
And for sure, humanity has seen dark days. The Black Death.
Mongol barbarity. The horrors of war amplified by the cruel ingenuity of man.
Scenes from Verdun
And yet, here we stand, in defiance of all of it.
Because all the times before, the people predicting the end have been, to a man, WRONG.
I highly recommend Dan Carlin’s Prophets of Doom for a phenomenal listen that touches upon just such a subject, and the humanity of the calamity that hysteria causes.
And I do not say this as someone untouched by this disease. I’ll bury my last grandfather today. Killed by the virus. He went quick, so that’s a blessing. But this end of the world nonsense...well I’ll bet any takers a paycheck that the world will continue on no matter how many fall. Because that’s what we do. We endure. We survive. We adapt and overcome.
So don’t give into the fear, that same rotten fear that’s been lingering since we were just savages around the fire.
The end is not near, it’s merely a time for change, for a new dawn after the dark. Maybe we’ll see that these worthless trappings we cling to don’t mean all that much, and that we’ve put our faith in the wrong places.
Because when Times get hard, we turn to those we can trust, who we are willing to stand with against the bloody tide. And it won’t be in a pulpit or a politician that you find your saving grace. It will be in yourself, and others who have the fortitude to endure when the night is darkest.
Keep the faith, whatever it may be. But learn to have faith in yourself.
And the wailing and waiting is nothing new. Be it marauding visigoths sacking Rome, or Atilla’s horde of Huns. Ottomans at the gates of Constantinople or Mongols burning Baghdad.
It’s come in the form of plague, pestilence and famine countless times. It wears many masks, and its harbingers come with it. Street preachers and proselytizers call upon it with maddened glee.
And for sure, humanity has seen dark days. The Black Death.
Mongol barbarity. The horrors of war amplified by the cruel ingenuity of man.
Scenes from Verdun
And yet, here we stand, in defiance of all of it.
Because all the times before, the people predicting the end have been, to a man, WRONG.
I highly recommend Dan Carlin’s Prophets of Doom for a phenomenal listen that touches upon just such a subject, and the humanity of the calamity that hysteria causes.
And I do not say this as someone untouched by this disease. I’ll bury my last grandfather today. Killed by the virus. He went quick, so that’s a blessing. But this end of the world nonsense...well I’ll bet any takers a paycheck that the world will continue on no matter how many fall. Because that’s what we do. We endure. We survive. We adapt and overcome.
So don’t give into the fear, that same rotten fear that’s been lingering since we were just savages around the fire.
The end is not near, it’s merely a time for change, for a new dawn after the dark. Maybe we’ll see that these worthless trappings we cling to don’t mean all that much, and that we’ve put our faith in the wrong places.
Because when Times get hard, we turn to those we can trust, who we are willing to stand with against the bloody tide. And it won’t be in a pulpit or a politician that you find your saving grace. It will be in yourself, and others who have the fortitude to endure when the night is darkest.
Keep the faith, whatever it may be. But learn to have faith in yourself.
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