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re: Divorce settlement calculators are eye opening - is it really this bad for non-custodial?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:03 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:03 pm to StringedInstruments
I was paying $2,200/month for 2 kids before I took ex back to court and won the custody battle. I didn't ask for nor do I receive anything from her.
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:08 pm to Dawgfanman
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You can’t write a prenup to cover child support.
No but it certainly protects your arse from the rest of the settlement.
BTW just because your a man doesn't mean you can not be the custodial parent. And you should fight for that for reason beyond money.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:15 pm to StringedInstruments
Men, as a rule, get bent over in a divorce proceeding. In other news, water is wet.
ETA....I've always found it curious that these draconian divorce laws that punish men so harshly have been on the books for years. Back when the legislature was 100% men. I will forever wonder why MEN wrote these laws as they did that generally always put a massive screw job to other men.
ETA....I've always found it curious that these draconian divorce laws that punish men so harshly have been on the books for years. Back when the legislature was 100% men. I will forever wonder why MEN wrote these laws as they did that generally always put a massive screw job to other men.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:36 pm to samson73103
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I will forever wonder why MEN wrote these laws as they did that generally always put a massive screw job to other men.
Because they were good, honorable men during a time when women performed an important role in the home. They weren’t worried about getting divorced. They were legislating against deadbeats who were leaving helpless mothers stranded without resources to raise their kids.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:39 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:42 pm to StringedInstruments
easy solution is to not marry a bitch. That way if you do get divorced she won't act like a bitch.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:43 pm to Volvagia
cute, but it doesn’t work that way
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:44 pm to Volvagia
He can be declared intentionally underemployed and they would impute his income at a higher level.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:48 pm to StringedInstruments
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This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:49 pm to StringedInstruments
quote:There's a bunch of eggregious shite with divorce settlements, but this seems pretty fair.
A mother and presumed custodial parent making $6000/month gross income paired with a father making $6000/month gross income will receive an ~$800/month check by court order for primary custody of two kids. That’s including the father paying health insurance premiums and after school care fees. Father would get every other weekend.
2 kids, even after health insurance and after care, aren't exactly cheap to take care of. Food, clothing, any sports/clubs they may be a part of, just general entertainment for the kids...there's a shite ton of monthly costs to raise 2 kids monthly.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:57 pm to billjamin
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He can be declared intentionally underemployed and they would impute his income at a higher level.
This
I saw it go down while I was in court for my divorce.
Plantworker baw said he "found the Lord, quit his job, and is now an ordained traveling minister."
The (female) judge told him to preach harder because he still needed to make up for the shortage. She based his salary off what he made while working in the plants.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:05 pm to StringedInstruments
Yep. It looks like it’ll be 20% of my income. My mortgage is only $1000 a month, so it’s not like moving to an apartment will save me. I’ll just have to completely restructure my lifestyle.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:21 pm to dyslexiateechur
My friend had reasonable doubts that his payment wasn’t going towards 100% child care. So one month he bought the kids new shoes, clothes and groceries. The ex wife turned him in and he got threatened to spend weekends in jail if he ever pulled that again.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:23 pm to tigerinexile
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My friend had reasonable doubts that his payment wasn’t going towards
it rarely does
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So one month he bought the kids new shoes, clothes and groceries. The ex wife turned him in and he got threatened to spend weekends in jail if he ever pulled that again.
makes zero sense
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:24 pm to Shexter
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However, her new husband makes $5000/month, but his salary doesn't count when the state calculates child support.
Yeah. This is fricked up if true. And it happens in other areas as well i.e. Social Security Checks.
If you remarry, new standards should apply, not the old standard.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:27 pm to StringedInstruments
My ex wife made double what I did. We got equal shared custody snd she did health and dental. Her " support" to me has been $50/month for the past 9 years
I have no doubt if roles were reversed id be paying out the arse to her.
I dont care about the money. I send it to a separate account and take it out around Christmas to send giftcards to family. I do however care about the level of man hating that's driving our birthrates into the ground.
I have no doubt if roles were reversed id be paying out the arse to her.
I dont care about the money. I send it to a separate account and take it out around Christmas to send giftcards to family. I do however care about the level of man hating that's driving our birthrates into the ground.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:29 pm to StringedInstruments
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I was playing around with some divorce calculators, and it really doesn’t make much sense to me how they get these numbers.
For example:
A mother and presumed custodial parent making $6000/month gross income paired with a father making $6000/month gross income will receive an ~$800/month check by court order for primary custody of two kids. That’s including the father paying health insurance premiums and after school care fees. Father would get every other weekend.
Doing a rough estimate of monthly taxes, insurance, and retirement contributions, that would leave the father with ~$3200/month for living expenses including rent/mortgage, insurance, food, gas, car payments, etc.
The mother would have approximately $5200/month for living expenses.
Adjusting for closer to split custody (but in reality of kids living in neighborhoods with friends, staying in a house in their school system, etc, it’ll lean more to one house than the other I presume), the payment only goes down to $550. That’s a 60/40 split.
I hope you bros posting about getting divorced are making bank or so damn miserable you can’t help but split. shite is expensive.
In summary, cheaper to keep her
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:30 pm to PineyWoodsHog
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In summary, cheaper to chip her
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:34 pm to Volvagia
Sounds like she's depending on him to pay for her mortgage. That's not his responsibility.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:47 pm to Dawgfanman
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Should they also consider the non custodial parent’s new spouse when calculating it?
Being a step parent doesn’t relieve the biological parent of any part of their responsibility.
It should if the costs of maintaining the custodial household (mortgage, insurance, bills, and maintenance) are factored into the child support/alimony agreement. If child support and alimony are separate, then, yes, I agree there shouldn't be a reduction in child support, but, alimony should see a reduction.
No, it doesn't get the biological parent off the hook, though your question about non-custodial is an interesting one. I wonder if the non-custodial spouse marries and significantly increases their household income, can they be made liable for more of the costs. Has anyone seen this before?
I could also see this resulting in new custody proceedings if that were the case.
And a roommate is not even in the same ballpark of a step parent.
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