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re: Divorce rates plunged in Kentucky after new 50/50 shared custody law,

Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:38 am to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:38 am to
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Welp, I can say from a first hand perspective, that you are wrong. I have 50/50 of my daughter, and I pay plenty of child support, and I was even forced to pay spousal support from the time we filed for divorce to six months after the divorce went final. We both worked, and I did not cheat, I did not physically or mentally abuse, I was never unemployed, have no history of substance abuse, and in all honesty, I never even yelled at her. And on top of all that, because I'm not a piece of shite, I still pay for half of everything our dughter needs, school supplies, uniforms, dance classes, soccer, birthday parties, doctor visits, etc.



How much did you make vs how much did your ex-wife make?
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:39 am to
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How can it be good for fathers but put women and children at risk?


Not reading the article but I bet it says that women can't leave husband due to lack of finances so they stay in abusive relationships because they need the financial support
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:41 am to
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Not reading the article but I bet it says that women can't leave husband due to lack of finances so they stay in abusive relationships because they need the financial support


Feminists have the victim mentality down to a science.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:50 am to
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Not reading the article but I bet it says that women can't leave husband due to lack of finances so they stay in abusive relationships because they need the financial support Feminists have the victim mentality down to a science.


The general thought is that the rise in divorce rates compared to 50-60 years ago is due to women entering the workforce in high numbers and becoming more financially independent.

But I’m pretty sure the data shows that educated women and higher earning women are more likely to initiate a divorce than uneducated/low wage earning women. And I don’t think it’s even close if I remember correctly.

So that would lead one to believe that the real reason women leave is because they can keep their exes money/kids and not be with someone they don’t like anymore.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42828 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:50 am to
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Women file for nearly 80 percent of divorces.



It's just under 70% but without context, the statistic of who files for divorce is meaningless. One could argue that it is because cheating men do not want divorces, straight men are more prone to domestic violence than straight women, or men are less likely to want to split assets than women (because they often have contributed more to the community assets).. But that would also be a wrong assumption without supporting data specific to why these women are filing for divorce.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:51 am to
Every state should have that.

My custody is 51/49 (she’s the 51%).

That’s 7 days a YEAR difference in possession. Those 7 days cost me $5,367.12 a DAY in post tax income for child support. Normal kids, no special needs, no abuse, split marital assets right down the middle. I’ve tried to have it readdressed 3x in the last 10 years. Nothing each time. Prepping for a fourth attempt in Ohio now instead of Texas.

Yeah, the system is totally fair.


Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:59 am to
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It's just under 70% but without context, the statistic of who files for divorce is meaningless. One could argue that it is because cheating men do not want divorces, straight men are more prone to domestic violence than straight women, or men are less likely to want to split assets than women (because they often have contributed more to the community assets).


One could also argue that men are more likely than women to want to keep the family unit together even if they are in an unhappy marriage for the sake of the children.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:59 am to
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Not reading the article but I bet it says that women can't leave husband due to lack of finances so they stay in abusive relationships because they need the financial support


When you're in a legitimately abusive situation, it's not uncommon for the abuser to manipulate finances to make it harder for the victim to leave. They will typically work to isolate the victim from potential external supports (a job, family members, friends).

That is a legitimate concern in an abusive situation.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
6023 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:01 am to
It was about a 60/40 ratio with me making the 60% of the total income. Which I know how it works with income. They plug all that shite into a spread sheet and it spits out a number. I get it. But its BS, and I'm just beating a dead horse.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:02 am to
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When you're in a legitimately abusive situation, it's not uncommon for the abuser to manipulate finances to make it harder for the victim to leave. They will typically work to isolate the victim from potential external supports (a job, family members, friends). That is a legitimate concern in an abusive situation.


How many physically abusive husbands do you guys think are out there?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:04 am to
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How many physically abusive husbands do you guys think are out there?


Well, I live in a state that is Top 3 in DV rates. So unfortunately, a fair amount here. I've also worked with victims of DV fairly regularly in the past 10 years.

Pretending they aren't out there and that all who are have been reported is incredibly naive.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:06 am to
I’m not pretending they aren’t out there. But I question the numbers. How much is actual physical violence vs “emotional” abuse? How often is there proof of physical domestic violence and how much is just an accusation by the woman?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:12 am to
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I’m not pretending they aren’t out there. But I question the numbers. How much is actual physical violence vs “emotional” abuse? How often is there proof of physical domestic violence and how much is just an accusation by the woman?


Kentucky's data is collected from a wide range of sources starting with completed JC-3 forms by law enforcement (where they report domestic violence incidents to the Cabinet), actual arrests, EPOs, CHFS reports (for child abuse/neglect), and participation in domestic violence resource programs.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42828 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:12 am to
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It's just under 70% but without context, the statistic of who files for divorce is meaningless. One could argue that it is because cheating men do not want divorces, straight men are more prone to domestic violence than straight women, or men are less likely to want to split assets than women (because they often have contributed more to the community assets).



One could also argue that men are more likely than women to want to keep the family unit together even if they are in an unhappy marriage for the sake of the children.


Any reason you decided to leave off the last sentence?
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But that would also be a wrong assumption without supporting data specific to why these women are filing for divorce.



Filings are simply that. The why cannot be determined simply based on who filed.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:14 am to
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Any reason you decided to leave off the last sentence?


I didn’t feel like responding to that part
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297283 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:18 am to
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I’m not pretending they aren’t out there. But I question the numbers. How much is actual physical violence vs “emotional” abuse?
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My semester report on "Devient Sociology" class years ago was the fact that changing laws have led to more women getting arrested for DV. The hens cackled loudly, I was the only dude in the class.

I suspect more men are "abused" than women, just not many men complain about it.

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Nearly every 1 in 2 women and more than 2 in 5 men reported experiencing intimate partner violence at some point in their lifetime.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3419 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:31 am to
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Nearly every 1 in 2 women and more than 2 in 5 men reported experiencing intimate partner violence at some point in their lifetime.


It's tough to take these stats seriously imo, I was "abused" as a 19 year old when my 19 year old gf shouted at me and threw her phone so hard the screen broke. I walked out, broke up, and moved on in about 5 seconds.

Not some "trapped, isolated" tragedy. Those situations are out there, sure, but it's more just an easy scapegoat imo, a cartoonish villain that everyone can agree to hate. The stereotypical "abusive husband"

But now policy is being created and these are the kinds of stats driving decisions.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 10:34 am
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30680 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:33 am to
The whore mothers can't hold husband hostage no more. So they are less brave to be on their own
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297283 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:33 am to
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It's tough to take these stats seriously imo


Correct.

Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
12165 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:35 am to
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You will very likely still have to pay child support even with a 50/50 custody arrangement.

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]Ask me how I know.[/b]


Same here and it blows. I fully pay for their care at my house and fully pay for their care at their mother's house.

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The State of Louisiana guidelines suck.


Indeed
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