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re: Disney's ABC is pulling Jimmy Kimmel indefinitely after Charlie Kirk comments (update)
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:15 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:15 am to LNCHBOX
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How would it not be? Covering for him suppressing speech would absolutely be that.
There's a cost / benefit to saying the FCC / Trump forced their hand, which I went over in the post you replied to.
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So public outcry played no factor in your opinion? Is the FCC involved with all these other firings as well? Or is your argument wildly inconsistent?
Again, I went over this in the post you replied to. There's a cost and benefit. See below:
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If they attack Trump / The FCC and blame them for forcing their hand to suspend Kimmel, what good does that do ABC? Maybe they'd get public support, but it'd also put a target on their back for other shows, would it not? That's more $$ they'd have to spend.
I don't know what you are referring to with "all these other firings." I already addressed Colbert's a while back. Not doing it again.
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Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:17 am to SUB
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I don't know what you are referring to with "all these other firings."
Oh so we're just playing dumb now. Ok, this is done I guess
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:27 am to LNCHBOX
This was just an excuse for ABC to get rid of a failing show. They get to finally unhitch themselves from that turd of a show and JK gets to be the victim and create a scene. Same thing with Colbert.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:29 am to SUB
No use arguing with him SUB. He doesnt even understand that political satire is protected under free speech.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:41 am to Corinthians420
quote:I wasn’t aware Jimmy Kimmel was arrested
He doesnt even understand that political satire is protected under free speech.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:46 am to Corinthians420
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He doesnt even understand that political satire is protected under free speech.
WTF are you talking about? Did the government take action on Jimmy?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:49 am to StrongOffer
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I wasn’t aware Jimmy Kimmel was arrested
Another take that displays a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1A.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:54 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:this motherfricker has no business saying shite
Obama weighs in
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:54 am to UpToPar
quote:Why don't you show us how dumb you are and tell us the 1st Amendment protects private sector employees from being fired for their speech. Go ahead.
Another take that displays a fundamental misunderstanding of the 1A.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 10:59 am to StrongOffer
Satire is supposed to be funny or at least ironic.
Kimmel's comments are not satire.
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Satire is the art of making someone or something look ridiculous, raising laughter in order to embarrass, humble, or discredit its targets.
Kimmel's comments are not satire.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:00 am to StrongOffer
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Why don't you show us how dumb you are and tell us the 1st Amendment protects private sector employees from being fired for their speech
It doesn't. The 1A protects private citizens from government suppression of speech. That government suppression can come in many forms. You provided one example of such government suppression (an arrest), but that's certainly not the only example. In fact, it's not even the most common example.
Jimmy Kimmel was certainly not arrested, but that doesn't mean that there can't be a 1A violation. Maybe you knew that and were just overly simplistic in your response, but I've seen so many misguided takes on 1A rights on here that it's often hard to tell.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:22 am to UpToPar
quote:ABC fired him because affiliates decided they weren't gonna air his show anymore. He has no case for violation of 1A.
It doesn't. The 1A protects private citizens from government suppression of speech. That government suppression can come in many forms. You provided one example of such government suppression (an arrest), but that's certainly not the only example. In fact, it's not even the most common example.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:26 am to UpToPar
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but I've seen so many misguided takes on 1A rights on here that it's often hard to tell.
Been re-reading your own posts?
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:26 am to StrongOffer
That's certainly possible. I'd be surprised if a lawsuit wasn't filed. It will all come out there. If the FCC was pressuring ABC or its affiliates to pull the show, then Kimmel could have a viable claim. This would have been much better if the FCC would have remained quiet.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:26 am to Corinthians420
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Corinthians420
Jesus, now you're bleeding from other boards
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:30 am to UpToPar
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This would have been much better if the FCC would have remained quiet.
I thought all the FCC said was that they received complaints from Sinclair and other companies that owned ABC affiliate stations. The FCC then said they would investigate the complaints. ABC canned kimmel before any investigation.
This was ABC canning a failing expensive show and using FCC/MAGA as cover and it is working beautifully.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:31 am to Cosmo
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I thought all the FCC said was that they received complaints from Sinclair and other companies that owned ABC affiliate stations. The FCC then said they would investigate the complaints. ABC canned kimmel before any investigation.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:36 am to Cosmo
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I thought all the FCC said was that they received complaints from Sinclair and other companies that owned ABC affiliate stations. The FCC then said they would investigate the complaints. ABC canned kimmel before any investigation.
I don't know the timeline or the extent of the FCC's involvement. All I've seen is the FCC chair's statement which certainly implies that there was pressure from the FCC for ABC to do something. I'm sure we'll know more once a lawsuit is filed documents/communications come out.
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:40 am to Corinthians420
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Corinthians420
I'm sure you were in all the threads that covered how the Biden admin was working directly with social media companies to censor and remove individual people and posts, yes? That was all proven as fact, and I imagine as someone who so fervently supports the first amendment, you were making your feeling known in those threads as well.
To refresh your memory...I'm even giving a PBS link: PBS
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In a letter to Rep. Jim Jordan, the Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Zuckerberg alleges that the officials, including those from the White House, “repeatedly pressured” Facebook for months to take down “certain COVID-19 content including humor and satire.”
The officials “expressed a lot of frustration” when the company didn’t agree, he said in the letter.
“I believe the government pressure was wrong and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it,” Zuckerberg wrote in the letter dated Aug. 26 and posted on the committee’s Facebook page and to its account on X.
This post was edited on 9/19/25 at 11:43 am
Posted on 9/19/25 at 11:44 am to real turf fan
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Satire is supposed to be funny or at least ironic.
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Satire is the art of making someone or something look ridiculous, raising laughter in order to embarrass, humble, or discredit its targets.
Kimmel's comments are not satire.
No they were not, they were 100% serious and aimed at the same target he's been punching at for years now.
If you want to see *true* political satire, Jon Stewart and (most of the time) Bill Maher are great examples. There's a reason they're still on the air and haven't had much if any controversy.
Kimmel's comments - and this latest is FAR from the only example - border on mean spirited and hateful. They do not serve the public in any positive manner.
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