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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:32 am to Korkstand
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:32 am to Korkstand
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the ROI is not there without further government involvement.
It could be.
roll back regulations and laws to where barriers to entry aren't so great, and it's cheaper to live and you will see more participation in the workforce, and far more entrepreneurs out making it happen.
When you create barriers to entry (all government) poor people suffer, not the wealthy.
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:33 am to Korkstand
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It's not some "white savior" bullshite, it's just basic mutual community building as a society.
The programs led by SWB and her hand puppet Police Chief have been massive failures. You can attempt to “change” NBR all you want, however the culture will never be changed in anyone’s lifetime and people will continue to be habitually gunned down in the streets.
150 murders/yr will be the new norm, and for a city who’s population is that the size of BR that’s unacceptable. The Mayors job is to protect the citizens under their watch, and under the SWB tenure that hasn’t happened.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:40 am to Korkstand
quote:This is a BS excuse. You can create your own wealth here. Plenty of people live successful lives and are not propped up by generational wealth. We live in America, there are plenty of educational opportunities, especially for poor people. Education is the key to success here, but some people choose not to place value on that.
There is also a significant generational wealth component.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:46 am to Scruffy
quote:That is not what I said. What I said was:
Like you said, no outside entity or group can address this in any way.
quote:Which means you can't just tell people that you don't like the way they act and expect them to do anything differently.
I am just saying that one culture telling another to be different ain't gonna work.
quote:Is that working out, IYO?
The only way to fix this is to have the culture itself address its own problems.
It all boils down to each individual, and I think most in here will agree with that. But what is the expectation here? If an individual has a father in prison and multiple siblings trying to live on a single mother's income, what is going to happen to that generation? Maybe a handful improve themselves, but the majority will continue the cycle of crime, drugs, and poverty, and they will outbreed the ones who don't. And should we expect the people who improve to hang around and build their old neighborhood, and change things from within? Doesn't seem likely.
There's got to be some outside influence if all the influence inside is negative. It's unfortunate that so many frame it as a racial issue and criticize people as being a "white savior" rather than viewing it as community building with the well-off working with the poor.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Sure it can be. But at what rate does it happen?
Poverty can be broken in one generation.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:50 am to Korkstand
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There's got to be some outside influence
The only outside influence they want is $$$. Any other influence is considered racist.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:51 am to Korkstand
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But at what rate does it happen?
at a higher rate amongst 1-3rd generation immigrants than native born americans.
This seems to support that it isn’t a racial or economic thing. Rather, its a cultural phenomoenon. More specifically, an AMERICAN cultural phenomenon.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:53 am to beerJeep
quote:Immigrants come here specifically to build a better life. They are the most motivated to make good decisions. And it is better to be surrounded by no influence than negative influences. I don't see it as a paradox at all.
wanna explain the immigrant paradox?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:54 am to Logician
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i'm not scared of facts. show me some facts.
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i've shown my work several times with maps and links. where are yours?
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about what i thought
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:55 am to beerJeep
quote:Exactly. If we look at only the people who broke their individual cycles, success is more likely. What do you think the neighborhoods they left in their own countries look like? Are those neighborhoods better or worse after the motivated people left?
at a higher rate amongst 1-3rd generation immigrants than native born americans.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:57 am to Korkstand
Poor immigrants aren't moving into country clubs here. They're moving into the same poor neighborhoods you're talking about with the bad influences
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:58 am to Korkstand
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They are the most motivated to make good decisions. And it is better to be surrounded by no influence than negative influences. I don't see it as a paradox at all.
America is racist.
America is xenophobic.
If black people have it hard in America, and immigrants have it hard in America, then Black Immirgrants SHOULD perform worse than native born blacks as they are facing not only racism, but xenophobia as well.
Yet black immigrants perform better than native born blacks. They obtain higher education rates, job particiation rates, marriage rates, and in turn have much lower poverty rates.
That is the very definition of a paradox.
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a seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true.
If America really is racist and xenophobic and this is why minorities perform poorly, surely minority immigrants would perform worse.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:58 am to Korkstand
quote:Not at all, but we subsidize the current system, thus perpetuating it.
Is that working out, IYO?
quote:The issue is that any outside influence, of the kind that will have long lasting improvement, is not welcome, is considered an attack, and is not tolerated.
There's got to be some outside influence if all the influence inside is negative. It's unfortunate that so many frame it as a racial issue and criticize people as being a "white savior" rather than viewing it as community building with the well-off working with the poor.
No one outside of these communities can have an impact due to the way the system is currently built.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:03 am to Korkstand
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If an individual has a father in prison and multiple siblings trying to live on a single mother's income, what is going to happen to that generation?
Well the government is giving that mother more than what she’d make part time. So she lives off the government and teaches her kids to do the same.
We are rewarding poor behavior.
The answer to the problem is easy, reversing the damage done to entire generations is the long and hard part. But we aren’t even trying to do that. We are trying to bring everyone else down a level.
So instead of tracking my spending and my bank accounts, maybe we should make sure assistance given is going to needs and not nails, hair, tattoos, booze and cigarettes.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:06 am to Logician
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Green dots = Black people
Blue dots = White people
Why couldn’t they just show it as black dots = black people and white dots = white people?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:09 am to Korkstand
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It's unfortunate that so many frame it as a racial issue and criticize people as being a "white savior"
and it's equally unfortunate that white saviors rush in to claim "it's just because they're poor" when that narrative was thoroughly destroyed in the last few pages.
i've shown you FACTS...data and information in graphical form. we've highlighted areas of poor people, black people, white people. you've replied to none of it, let alone provided any information, data, facts, or links of your own to back up anything you've said.
it's only "the black people i know don't have problems. the poor people do, though".
refute me with real information, data, facts, or links--something other than your anecdotes--or stop being a fricking clown
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:10 am to Deactived
quote:There's a big difference in living somewhere and really being part of the community, especially for people who specifically want better and already make better decisions.
Poor immigrants aren't moving into country clubs here. They're moving into the same poor neighborhoods you're talking about with the bad influences
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:12 am to Korkstand
quote:link? proof? anything??
Immigrants come here specifically to build a better life.
that's an opinion. no one gives a shite about opinions. where are your facts?
make me have to believe it.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:13 am to beerJeep
quote:That logic doesn't follow. I've been harping on and on about the cycle of poverty and bad decisions, and immigrants have already decided to break that cycle.
If black people have it hard in America, and immigrants have it hard in America, then Black Immirgrants SHOULD perform worse than native born blacks as they are facing not only racism, but xenophobia as well.
quote:As I would expect of motivated people who managed to escape their own cycle of destruction.
Yet black immigrants perform better than native born blacks. They obtain higher education rates, job particiation rates, marriage rates, and in turn have much lower poverty rates.
quote:Nope.
That is the very definition of a paradox.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:15 am to Korkstand
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There's a big difference in living somewhere and really being part of the community, especially for people who specifically want better and already make better decisions.
You do know that this doesn’t apply to all immigrants, right? Damn Korkie….. You can’t catch a break.
How about you focus on the reason why each generation, as they become more “americanized” they begin to perform worse and worse?
Why is it that the Great grand children of immigrants perform worse than the children of immigrants? Shouldn’t they perform better, if, like you said, they are making better decisions and hanging in the right crowds?
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