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re: Did I Undertip the Pizza Man? I Guess Times Have Changed

Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:26 pm to
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He wasn’t pissed about your $5 tip, he was pissed you wouldn’t shut the frick up.


Posted by biglosdaddy
south louisiana
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:29 pm to
I have been doing delivery for a bit for some extra income. Let me break it down to you as to how delivery drivers are paid.

In store:min wage
On the road: substantially less. Also get paid "mileage" which is actually based on sales. Starts at .675. Every $100 in sales, they get 6.75.

There are scenarios that depending on what the order is and where they deliver that they can be paid less than minimum wage.

I appreciate any tips. That delivery fee does not go to the driver. I use my own gas, drive on crappy (NOLA) roads in my own vehicle. Wear and tear is a real thing.

Whoever orders gets to relax and stay at home and have a service provided to them. I think expecting a tip is extremely fair considering the service.

If you don't want to tip your driver, maybe pick it up yourself?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164014 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:35 pm to
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The driver arrives on time and we exchange a friendly banter for at least 2 minutes.

Weirdest part of this ordeal
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:46 pm to
You tipped $5 online and then threw in $5 in cash for a location that could be bothered to take your order when you called. Unless your order was more than $50 you tipped person as much or better than if they had waited on you in a restaurant.

Even if online tip went to someone else $5 for one pizza seems more than fair.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24244 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:49 pm to
I tip 20%. Easy math, easy money.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:01 pm to
Reading these weekly, if not daily, tip threads reinforces my standard of: Screw dining out, it's not worth the hassle. I'll happily cook and clean up my own mess.

Plus I can eat an awesome gourmet dinner dressed in my underwear, in a recliner, if I feel like it.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:02 pm to
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I'll happily cook and clean up my own mess.


I would never do either of these things ever again if I had my way.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
3908 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:02 pm to
My wife and I disagree on tips for takeout. I generally tip a dollar per box. I consider it a handling fee. This means I’m tipping between $2-5 depending on the order. She used to be a Togo girl back in her day and she thinks it should be more. Idk what’s right but that’s my reasons.

ETA: Pizza $5-8 is my typical tip. Depends on how many ones I have.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:24 pm to
That sounds fine on delivery i think.

Some of the people in this thread need to cook some if they cant throw a couple bucks on a to go order though
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:30 pm to
None of this happened.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:31 pm to
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Some of the people in this thread need to cook some if they cant throw a couple bucks on a to go order though


Alternatively, if your restaurant can't afford to pay you more, maybe find a different job.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:36 pm to
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Alternatively, if your restaurant can't afford to pay you more, maybe find a different job.


But you have accepted the social norm of the expectation of tipping by patronizing businesses that use that labor and wage system. If you don’t like the social norm (you clearly don’t, as you seem to pride yourself on being a poor tipper), you should find an alternative dining option. You’re the outlier needing conformity, not them.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 11:39 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:39 pm to
It is the way it works here. If you don’t like it, move to Europe?

See how that works..
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:39 pm to
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you have accepted the social norm of the expectation of tipping by patronizing businesses that use that labor.


I've already explained I have not accepted that social norm.

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You’re the outlier needing conformity


Maybe I should just let hand the restaurant my wallet and they can charge whatever they like and I'll thank them for it.

There's no such thing as fixed price or fixed product in a business. It's give and take. When they start demanding I tip a certain percentage, I either accept that or I go somewhere else. Until then, I tip what I think is suitable and you work where you find the pay sufficient, including gratuity.

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It is the way it works here.


No, it's not. It's the way you would like it to work. Otherwise tips would be mandatory.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 11:41 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81176 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:40 pm to
Don’t order takeout from a restaurant? That’s a workable idea that doesn’t involve moving.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22390 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:40 pm to
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tip drivers, service industry people, maids, and anyone else who provides me a service beyond what their hourly wage covers.


What does a maids wage cover if not those services? That’s the whole job lol
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:42 pm to
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Don’t order takeout from a restaurant?


You know what else works? Get a job where you don't need tips to make your bills. Pretty sure county garbage pickup is hiring.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81176 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:43 pm to
Or be a dick brother I don’t care. Don’t get pissy when people talk shite about you online?
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:44 pm to
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Don’t get pissy


Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 11:45 pm to
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I've already explained I have not accepted that social norm.


That makes you the weirdo that people hate when you dine out. That’s fine, but I find it more than a bit bizarre to brag about at best, and perhaps even deliberately cruel, and all for the sake of what? To prove to people that you’re too cool for standard practices? You’re special?

Congrats on being an a-hole, I guess?
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