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re: Did I Undertip the Pizza Man? I Guess Times Have Changed

Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:05 pm to
I'm sorry but I refuse to believe someone is doing 40-50% of the work other than the chef on to go orders.
Posted by TheIndulger
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:05 pm to
Are you sure he was upset by the amount you tipped and that it wasn’t all in your head?
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:07 pm to
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The meals take longer than fifteen minutes if it’s coon to order.


Anything longer than 15 minutes required a manager to visit the table at the high dollar place I supervised. Unless it’s pizza or some specialty cuisine, there aren’t many things that take that long to cook. That’s going to be true for probably 70+% of all restaurants.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:10 pm to
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I'm sorry but I refuse to believe someone is doing 40-50% of the work other than the chef on to go orders.


And that’s how I know you’ve never worked in a restaurant. Most restaurants have a line of cooks in the back - each working on a different item. The head chef typically handles the meat. That’s a matter of pulling it out of the cooler, seasoning it, and putting it on the grill or in the oven and monitoring the cooking process. Not much else. Everything else is done by someone else.

For to-go orders, someone is taking that food out of the window, putting it in the proper container, making side salads, gathering condiments and sauces (to include pouring them into a separate container if necessary), verifying every item of the order is correct and present, bagging that order, and handling the customer’s payout and any additional requests. All of that can be very time consuming.
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:12 pm to
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At many restaurants, the people in charge of to-go are relying on tips just like waitresses are,


Seems fricked up by the restaurant. They should fix that.


Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:13 pm to
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Seems fricked up by the restaurant. They should fix that.


No arguments from me on that.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:14 pm to
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I don’t think it’s necessary to tip 20% for to-go orders, obviously, but tipping something should be a no brainer, because they’re providing a service and mostly aren’t getting paid for their effort by the establishment.



Are UberEats, Doordash, Waitr, etc... drivers tipping them? If the to-go people are really in charge of THAT much, then they must be getting killed over the past year.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:16 pm to
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I don't tip anything because nobody is providing me table service


I also wanted to circle back around and let you know that everyone in that establishment hates your guts, and if you go there often - they all know your face and you’re known as the guy who doesn’t tip.

Not that you care. But that’s what they’re all thinking. All of them.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:16 pm to
Nah you overtipped imo. I never give more than 10% on pizza delivery. Dude ain't making server wages.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:16 pm to
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And that’s how I know you’ve never worked in a restaurant. Most restaurants have a line of cooks in the back - each working on a different item.


If it’s a large restaurant. The smaller ones don’t work this way. My husband is head chef of a small restaurant and many nights it’s just him and another line cook.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:17 pm to
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No arguments from me on that.


Are there any other jobs that are underpaid that you personally decide to subsidize with extra money regardless of the job.

Garbage men do more picking up your trash can than to go order people. Do you tip them?

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:18 pm to
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Are UberEats, Doordash, Waitr, etc... drivers tipping them? If the to-go people are really in charge of THAT much, then they must be getting killed over the past year.


Those guys don’t give shite to anybody because they’re relying on tips too. The fricked up thing about those services is they don’t typically provide a method for the customer to tip anyone at the actual restaurant, unless that’s changed recently. Many restaurants now require management to handle those orders for that very reason.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:19 pm to
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also wanted to circle back around and let you know that everyone in that establishment hates your guts, and if you go there often - they all know your face and you’re known as the guy who doesn’t tip.
I live in a city so I don't frequent one restaurant very often. Regardless, if they hate me for tipping when we dine in but not on carryout, so be it. I don't need people to like me

For the record, my wife agrees with you. She said I'm an arse
This post was edited on 3/3/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:21 pm to
For table service, I tip 15-20% of the bill. If it's excellent service, I tip more.

Delivery is $6 or $7 regardless of bill.

Takeout that I pick up is $0.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:22 pm to
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Are there any other jobs that are underpaid that you personally decide to subsidize with extra money regardless of the job.

Garbage men do more picking up your trash can than to go order people. Do you tip them?


I tip drivers, service industry people, maids, and anyone else who provides me a service beyond what their hourly wage covers. I think tipping is good practice in general to show appreciation for a job well done, but especially to those who are relying on it to pay their bills.

Now, whether or not it’s fricked up that they have to rely on that to pay their bills is a different convo for a different thread, probably. But as it stands, since we know they are relying on it, and we choose to patronize establishments that utilize their labor, tipping is the proper thing to do.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:22 pm to
I tip 20% everywhere for everything. If it’s under $10 I usually double the order.

I feel like I’m generous.

If they’re terrible service they’ll get 10% but it has to be pretty bad.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68513 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:23 pm to
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For table service, I tip 15-20% of the bill.
I'm usually minimum 20%. I tipped 100% once because the guy was super nice, attentive and I was a tad inebriated.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:23 pm to
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For table service, I tip 15-20% of the bill. If it's excellent service, I tip more.


I will tip higher than 10% for good service.

I leave myself the option to not tip for crappy service. If you want to schmooze at the next table and ignore me or put me next to the bathroom, I hope the other tables are good tippers.
Posted by geauxscott
Member since Nov 2007
939 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:24 pm to
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The driver arrives on time and we exchange a friendly banter for at least 2 minutes.


What on earth were y’all talking about for over 2 minutes? He wasn’t pissed about your $5 tip, he was pissed you wouldn’t shut the frick up.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 3/3/21 at 10:25 pm to
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The fricked up thing about those services is they don’t typically provide a method for the customer to tip anyone at the actual restaurant, unless that’s changed recently.


It hasn't changed. But I'm already paying $5+ in fees plus $5-7 tip for the driver. And I believe that's on top of higher online menu prices than what you'd pay in the restaurant. If another tip box pops up on the delivery sites, then I'll significantly cut down on using the services (limit the use to EXTREME hangovers only).
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