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re: Did Andrew Jackson fight for the North or the South?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 12:42 am to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 12/20/15 at 12:42 am to Lima Whiskey
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quote: He killed the bank and freed us from debt.
This... Which is why i said... This ..."trump has the potential to be the new Andrew Jackson"
Also cuz he might round up all the muslims and marchum to oklahoma
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 12:46 am
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Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:10 am to 1234567k
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I think he slaughtered some indians in bama also.
You mean the indians who were allied with the British during the War of 1812? Those indians? Yeah. No sympathy. The Trail of Tears is a black spot but other than that he was a great man.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:12 am to theantiquetiger
Probably his state more likely. Honestly state pride is a completely foreign concept to people in this day and age. People from Mississippi don't look at people from Georgia as radically different and inferior. They saw themselves as small countries before the Civil War and the borders were decisive on friendships and policies. There was no concept of North and South aside from the Mason Dixon line. They cared about their own state, and they allied with other states who had similar interests. That all changed after the Civil War. Now with the information age, the state borders are entirely meaningless. No one cares anymore, even if they do give you shite about being from a certain state.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:15 am to I am a man
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This angers me so much. How do people believe this and not know that Jackson was our greatest president? Defeating the Bank of the United States is perhaps the greates feat ever accomplished by a President. Throw in his personal integrity in how he handled the Eaton affair and slander against his wife, plus paving the way for American expansive Westward, and handling the Nullifaciton crisis he truly is a legend.
To be fair he has a very brutal legacy as well, one entirely earned I might add. Jackson in my opinion is certainly the most interesting president. The man was a total character that you could make a great movie out of. I have mixed feelings on him being a "good president". Did great things, but also carried out atrocities.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:17 am to OMLandshark
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Probably his state more likely. Honestly state pride is a completely foreign concept to people in this day
I hope you're not serious.
Andrew Jackson was apparently from the state of confusion!
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:21 am to theantiquetiger
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I hope you're not serious.
Andrew Jackson was apparently from the state of confusion!
My only point is that "North vs South" was never really a concept. It was about the states and their interests. Unfortunately, those interests were slavery. If Jackson was around for it, I think he would have supported the South due to Tennessee.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:24 am to OMLandshark
Andrew Jackson isn't give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:26 am to RollTide1987
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You mean the indians who were allied with the British during the War of 1812? Those indians? Yeah. No sympathy. The Trail of Tears is a black spot but other than that he was a great man.
No! I think it was an indian war. And when he got involved he settled that shite!!! Meaning he took no prisoners literally ! I did happen down in bama im pretty sure. Those other poster know more than me
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:32 am to OMLandshark
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Now with the information age, the state borders are entirely meaningless. No one cares anymore, even if they do give you shite about being from a certain state.
Not really. The goalposts just widened a little more after the civil war and went beyond state borders to simply regionalism.
North vs South is played out constantly in the eastern United States with both people bashing the regions frequently. The pacific coast from the damp pacific northwest to the dry deserts in the southwest have a lot of lifestyle differences with culture being affected by it a lot. The heartland midwest and rust belt are the only regions that have a good bit of solidarity with each other and really no major cultural differences.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:32 am to OMLandshark
Andrew jackson was a great President in my opinion but he was also a lawyer. So there you go...
A great pres... And an a-hole at the same time. Why i support trump
A great pres... And an a-hole at the same time. Why i support trump
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:59 am to theantiquetiger
Well, Jackson was certainly no saint and I could understand some people not wanting to praise him as a hero, but being so ignorant as the think he had ties to the South in the Civil War is on a whole other level.
But he was easily the most badass president ever. Teddy is 2nd, but Teddy wasn't a man who survived over 100 duels.
But he was easily the most badass president ever. Teddy is 2nd, but Teddy wasn't a man who survived over 100 duels.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 2:00 am
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:02 am to saintsfan92612
Recommend some good books on andy?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:14 am to 1234567k
No but willy horton sings a good tune about the battle of new orleans.
Weeeelllllll we fired our guns til the barrels melted down then we grabbed a alligator and we fought another round. We filled head with cannon balls and powdered his behind ans when we set the powder off the gator lost his mind.
They ran through the briars and they ran through the bushes and they ran though the brambles where the rabbits wouldny go. They ran so fast that the hounds coulnt catchem On down the mississippi to the gulf of mexico
Weeeelllllll we fired our guns til the barrels melted down then we grabbed a alligator and we fought another round. We filled head with cannon balls and powdered his behind ans when we set the powder off the gator lost his mind.
They ran through the briars and they ran through the bushes and they ran though the brambles where the rabbits wouldny go. They ran so fast that the hounds coulnt catchem On down the mississippi to the gulf of mexico
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:36 am to 1234567k
quote:Magnificent Destiny by Paul Wellman, about the friendship of Jackson and Sam Houston
Recommend some good books on andy?
For a more politically oriented perspective, The Age Of Jackson by Arthur Schlesinger Jr, later the house hagiographer for the Kennedys
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:45 am to Kcoyote
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They know Jackson is from that era, know he did bad things, so they assume it had to do with the Civil War.
Well, I would definitely consider giving Africans blankets laced with AIDS a "bad thing"!!! . Duh!
Posted on 12/20/15 at 3:09 am to 1234567k
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No! I think it was an indian war.
It was the Creek War - which by 1814 had become an offshoot of the War of 1812. The Battle of Horseshoe Bend was the climatic battle of that segment of the conflict. Less than a year later, Jackson defeated the British at New Orleans.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 4:18 am to theantiquetiger
They're probably confusing Jackson with Lincoln's VP, Andrew Johnson, who was impeached for trying to remove Sec of War Edwin Stanton and opposing the harsh Reconstruction measures enacted after Lincoln's death. The similarity of the names makes it an understandable mistake.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 6:26 am to theantiquetiger
The Cherokee don't vote in New Orleans so Ole Hickory is fine.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 7:13 am to I am a man
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But by all means keep reading Norm Chomsky.
It's Noam Chomsky, not Norm. But that's okay since Jackson was also a creative speller.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 7:25 am to theantiquetiger
He marched the Indians to Oklahoma so we could steak their land for slave raised cotton.
How's that for a nice BS SJW reason to eliminate him from our history.
How's that for a nice BS SJW reason to eliminate him from our history.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 7:53 am
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