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Did all these FBI investigations into colleges start with the basketball?

Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:36 pm
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:36 pm
Has anyone been following this from the beginning? What lead to the FBI getting involved with colleges?
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:37 pm
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:37 pm to
It all started with Aunt Becky
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:56 pm to
No. It all started with two Adidas officials and a single agent. They were looking into general fraud and bribery I believe. And the coaching stuff just kind of fell into their lap while investigating
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:58 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:02 pm to
They were looking into securities fraud.

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The person who helped unravel the scheme was Los Angeles finance executive Morrie Tobin. Tobin was being investigated for an unrelated securities fraud and decided to offer the feds a tip: a Yale soccer coach had offered to get Tobin's daughter into Yale if he paid him $450,000.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:10 pm to
It started with fraternities.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:13 pm to
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The person who helped unravel the scheme was Los Angeles finance executive Morrie Tobin. Tobin was being investigated for an unrelated securities fraud and decided to offer the feds a tip: a Yale soccer coach had offered to get Tobin's daughter into Yale if he paid him $450,000.


Wasn’t Tobin one of the guys who raped all those women in the 80s with Kavanaugh, Squi, and Donkey Dong Doug?
Posted by ExtraGravy
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:13 pm to
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Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:17 pm to
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Here we have two cases of a serious crook cutting a sweetheart deal while we take all the little players and roast them at the stake in public.


This. What Tobin did was really bad, in a financial crimes sense. But he gets off light and Aunt Becky will "fry" for something that nobody really gives a crap about. She helped her apparently idiotic daughter get into a good school. Who wouldn't do that? Maybe not in the way she did it, mind you. Just say "here's half a million for your scholarship program. When can my daughter start?"

I couldn't care less about the basketball stuff either. Except Will Wade. That's just funny. The school's make millions off of those players. If they have to pay them to come, so what.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:20 pm
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:27 pm to
The investigation centers around a scumbag “handler” named Christian Dawkins, who allegedly arranged payments of 250K for 3 high school players to sign with Addidas sponsored schools.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:34 pm to
Football is coming next. Needed to lay blueprint with something easy like basketball that wouldn’t involve a huge fight and guaranteed loss by government from the start. That will be the next wave. Tax fraud and conspiracy on tax fraud claims will bring everyone to their knees, including boosters, in the third wave.
Posted by OweO
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:44 pm to
No..
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:49 pm to
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The school's make millions off of those players. If they have to pay them to come, so what.


For a public university it is considered fraud against the university, and is a federal crime. Read paragraph 3 and 4 of the justice department indictment against Dawkins and Gatto. linked. Actually all of it is interesting as it explains many NCAA rules that a lot of people think they know, but couldn't be more misinformed.


LINK
Posted by Mikey99
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:55 pm to
Low hanging fruit
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10962 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:11 pm to
What kind of deal did Tobin get?

Tobin
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scheme to profit from the manipulation and illegal sale of stock of two publicly traded companies

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hid Tobin's ownership and control over the companies by using offshore entitites to hold his stock and by establishing accounts to sell that stock... a scheme that generated more than $165 million of illegal sales of stock in at least 50 microcap companies

quote:

after the SEC halted trading in the securities of Environmental Packaging on June 27, 2017, the defendants took steps to obstruct the SEC's investigation - and conceal their own involvement in the matter - by arranging to change the names listed on Wintercap account records.

https://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2018/lr24361.htm
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:12 pm to
Ruh ro LSU sleuths on the case now to debunk the fbi.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Football is coming next. Needed to lay blueprint with something easy like basketball that wouldn’t involve a huge fight and guaranteed loss by government from the start. That will be the next wave. Tax fraud and conspiracy on tax fraud claims will bring everyone to their knees, including boosters, in the third wave.


Yeah football programs better have started when this broke with some kind of clean up. Or making moves to get peeps out that would be involved.

I wonder if this had anything to do with UT moving away from adidas. But Hart was a pos, so who knows.

Any school with an IMG kid(s) better get things in order too. Even learning how to fake some docs/emails.

The kiffin year, and his stench that hung over the first 2 dooley yrs got me use to waking up every day wondering what new would come up. So not delusional like lsu fans are
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:08 am to
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The other thing common to both investigations is you had a big fish helping rat out little fish and bit players to the feds, in return for leniency. As opposed to how it supposedly works other times, where they first nab little fish and offer leniency to work their way up the chain to hammer the big guy.


That's not how it works.

In the Federal system, you give a proffered interview in which you have to give information on all your criminal actions and pertinent information on criminal actions in return for reduction of points used in sentencing.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 8:10 am
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