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re: diagnose my garage door problem..stopped closing

Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:37 am to
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:37 am to
Your garage door safety laser thing is off course. Fix it.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41385 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:40 am to
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if it is a newer model with force and distance adjustments, it is possible those adjustments some how got off. also possible that there is a bind somewhere in the mechanism or with the actual door and the force limiter is being exceeded. You are over ridding the force or distance limiter with continuous hold on the button.


Yes this is what I was trying to say. I had to do this usually once a year in Colorado between winter and summer.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5633 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:44 am to
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funny you should say that; the photo cells are TRASHED. neither one was hooked up at all but it was still working fine without them. 


You really need to get those back in working order especially if you have kids or pets.

You can purchase just the sensors. Can be bought at Lowe's or HD.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94730 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:45 am to
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had to do this usually once a year in Colorado between winter and summer.


Makes sense. This started around the same time the weather got cool here.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3795 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:58 am to
Although if you garage door is relatively new, this shouldn't be a problem. Look at your tension springs at the top of the door and make sure none of them are broken. If one is broken, it is taking too much force for your door to go up/down. You could adjust the force settings, but you are masking the problem. Eventually your garage door motors will grind away, and you'll have to replace the opener.

If the springs are good, then check for misaligned/obstructed sensors, as others have said.
Posted by bleuman
Places
Member since Sep 2009
8945 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:04 am to
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photo cell may be out of alignment




this.

had the same issue as OP - it was alignment. all good now.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94730 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:14 am to
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Although if you garage door is relatively new, this shouldn't be a problem.


Its 2006 craftsman. I don't see any bind... I can pull the red handle and raise and lower it by hand easily.
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3795 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:16 am to
Nevermind, if you can move the door yourself, springs are fine.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:18 am
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18402 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:20 am to
Censors are out of alignment. Readjust to where they line up correctly and it will work. Same thing happened on mine a while back.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:24 am to
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Holding the button down overrides the sensors


that a fact? never heard of it but, good to know.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14715 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:25 am to
The problem appears only when trying to close the door? I would think that points to an issue with the photocell sensors.

As others have said, they could be misaligned.

Also, how long have you been in the house? Were you there this time last year? At our old house, the garage faced east/southeast and around this time of year the sun would shine in just the right way to wash out the photocell beam enough to keep the sensor from detecting it. As long as it was in the afternoon or after dark, no problems, but it was a pain in the morning.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94730 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:31 am to
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The problem appears only when trying to close the door? I would think that points to an issue with the photocell sensors.


yes, it always opens fine from remotes, doorbell button, homelink...its just an issue with closing.

there are no photocell sensors. they were trashed when we bought the house and I haven't bought new ones.

quote:

how long have you been in the house? Were you there this time last year?


we moved here in feb. now that you mention it, i think the garage door was FUBAR for the first couple months (we were too busy with other projects and just manually raised/lowered it after i tried it out once and it didnt seem to work correctly) and it was probably May before i tried seeing if the motor worked. It worked fine all the way until about a month ago when the weather changed.

so this might be related to the cold and the calibration.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:34 am
Posted by rustyjohnson
LP
Member since Oct 2009
446 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:42 am to
You mentioned the sensors were trashed. Were they jumped out of the circuit? Not sure if they're NO or NC...just a thought.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94730 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:51 am to
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You mentioned the sensors were trashed. Were they jumped out of the circuit? Not sure if they're NO or NC...just a thought.


they're trashed as in nothing left except the little metal brackets screwed to the concrete and some frayed wires.

i think the broken pieces of the plastic housings were around when we bought the house but got swept out with the trash at some point.
Posted by rustyjohnson
LP
Member since Oct 2009
446 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:58 am to
I was thinking someone may have wirenutted the leads together to jump it out and one came loose. I have no idea how garage doors are wired.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:24 pm to
Inexpensive 3rd party automation.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17376 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 1:14 pm to
My sensors have a led light on each side. One is always on to indicate that power is on, the other side only lights up if the beam is properly aligned.

Next try pulling the red handle and unlock the door. Then push the button to see of the carrier will run back and forth. If it does then the door, tracks or rollers could be binding up.

After you get it fixed you should check the amount of down pressure required to make the door reverse. My installer used a roll of paper towels laid on its side. He adjusted so that the door would not crush the cardboard tube inside the roll. There is a screw on the drive motor to increase or decrease the force. You want it set as low as possible for the door to function, especially if you have young children or pets. It will keep them from being crushed by the door.

Posted by monz29
Castle Pines, CO
Member since Dec 2006
928 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 1:41 pm to
adjust the sensitivity screw on the door opener--- should fix it
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15804 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 1:45 pm to
I had this same problem. It ended up being some small computer board or something.
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