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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:12 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:12 pm to fr33manator
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:13 pm to MFn GIMP
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Did you know that a drug overdose can be considered homicide in Minnesota?
There’s no way the ME ruled that manner of death as homicide. The DA office is free to pursue whatever charges they want regardless of the ME determination. A common example are vehicle crashes. The manner of death is ruled an accident, but a driver may be charged if, for example, they were intoxicated.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:14 pm to AMS
quote:So where does it say he was asphyxiated?
its simple with basic medical comprehension.
Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual,
restraint, and neck compression
Manner of death: Homicide
It reads: his heart and lungs stopped while LEO was subduing, restraining, and compressing his neck.
....as in his neck was being compressed then he stopped breathing.
If floyd had overdosed or had an MI, the COD would have been overdose/MI and manner of death as natural/accidental. this is a major hurdle for the defense as an unbiased autopsy paints the picture of mechanical asphyxiation, not OD/MI.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:15 pm to tgrbaitn08
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I was just wondering if she was about to get a phone call forbidding her from wearing her uniform tomorrow.
that would be awesome if so and I hope the defense ask her why she's not in uniform
omg, please let this scenario play out.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:21 pm to AMS
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AMS
Every time you post I envision Eric "Otter" Stratton arguing the Delta's case in front of the Interfraternity Council.
Eric "Otter" Stratton: Point of parliamentary procedure!
Robert Hoover: Don't screw around, they're serious this time!
Eric "Otter" Stratton: Take it easy, I'm pre-law.
Donald "Boon" Schoenstein: I thought you were pre-med.
Eric "Otter" Stratton: What's the difference?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:25 pm to AMS
Would you shut the frick up and stick to the proceedings
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:26 pm to AMS
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:26 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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So where does it say he was asphyxiated?
Again it goes back to basic medical documentation comprehension.
It says floyd's death was a homicide (caused by another person), and that he stopped breathing+died while his neck was being compressed... that is asphyxiation. I can't comprehend that for you.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:27 pm to ColoradoTiger1987
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It varies state by state, I know that in some states that they can charge you with a single count, but the defendant can be found guilty of a lesser.
this seems messed up too. i imagine some of the time the prosecution fails to make their case on the initial charge, and the jury doesn't come to a consensus, they tell the judge, and then he informs them they can convict on a lesser charge. then the holdouts, tired of deliberating, give in to pressure and vote to convict.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:30 pm to AMS
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its simple with basic medical comprehension.
What do you make of the Medical Examiner's later comments on the record regarding the drugs in Floyd's system at the time of his death?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:31 pm to AMS
III. No life-threatening injuries identified
A. No facial, oral mucosal, o conjunctival petechiae B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal
structures
C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries
D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries
E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma
A. No facial, oral mucosal, o conjunctival petechiae B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal
structures
C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries
D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries
E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:33 pm to AMS
From the actual autopsy:
Then, after that, we can talk about the ghetto speedball of meth and fentanyl and the up to 90% occlusion of parts of his cardiovascular system. Then we can move on to what happens when a person whose heart is dying overexerts himself, in this case, while fighting against the police.
quote:But yes, tell me more about he was asphyxiated with no trauma.
NECK: Layer by layer dissection of the anterior strap muscles of the neck discloses no areas of contusion or hemorrhage within the musculature. The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone are intact. The larynx is lined by intact mucosa. The thyroid is symmetric and red-brown, without cystic or nodular change. The tongue is free of bite marks, hemorrhage, or other injuries. The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free of hemorrhage.
Then, after that, we can talk about the ghetto speedball of meth and fentanyl and the up to 90% occlusion of parts of his cardiovascular system. Then we can move on to what happens when a person whose heart is dying overexerts himself, in this case, while fighting against the police.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:33 pm to hubreb
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III. No life-threatening injuries identified
funny thing about asphyxiation, there isnt anything like this in something like 1/3 cases. you dont have to have a life threatening injury to have air supply cut off
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:34 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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But yes, tell me more about he was asphyxiated with no trauma.
because thats actually relatively common in asphyxiations lmao.
quote:
Then, after that, we can talk about the ghetto speedball of meth and fentanyl and the up to 90% occlusion of parts of his cardiovascular system. Then we can move on to what happens when a person whose heart is dying overexerts himself, in this case, while fighting against the police.
weird that 0/3 coroners noted OD or MI as cause of death.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:35 pm to AMS
quote:So "nowhere" would be your answer. Cool. Nowhere does it say he was asphyxiated.
Again it goes back to basic medical documentation comprehension.
It says floyd's death was a homicide (caused by another person), and that he stopped breathing+died while his neck was being compressed... that is asphyxiation. I can't comprehend that for you.
Why is it such a chore to get you to admit that?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:36 pm to AMS
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funny thing about asphyxiation, there isnt anything like this in something like 1/3 cases. you dont have to have a life threatening injury to have air supply cut off
Show something that proves that? I think you are full of shite...if you are getting choked out, there will be bruises, proof of some type
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:37 pm to hubreb
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You are full of shite
Damn, this dude had sickle cell, covid, heart disease and was partying on Fentanyl?
What a baller.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:37 pm to AMS
quote:Care to cite your source on that?
because thats actually relatively common in asphyxiations lmao.
quote:Equally weird that the one who counts didn't mention asphyxiation as cause of death.
weird that 0/3 coroners noted OD or MI as cause of death.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:39 pm to AMS
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weird that 0/3 coroners noted OD or MI as cause of death.
You sure about that? Because at least one has said otherwise.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 5:40 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Equally weird that the one who counts didn't mention asphyxiation as cause of death.
where does homicide fall into the OD/MI you keep toting?
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