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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:42 pm to
This prosocuter is dumb as a bucket of snot....
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:44 pm to
Does anyone know if the defense is going to call the medical examiner to the stand?
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Does anyone know if the defense is going to call the medical examiner to the stand?


The prosecutor will do that.
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:47 pm to
10-4, I know it has been discussed but it is clear that he ruled that the cause of death was an overdose correct?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:49 pm to
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10-4, I know it has been discussed but it is clear that he ruled that the cause of death was an overdose correct?


No. The cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest." Fentayl, arterisclerosis, and the restraints used by the police were listed as contributory factors.

Also, he called it a "homicide."
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:51 pm to
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the restraints used by the police were listed as contributory factors.


It will be interesting how the prosecutors try and prove that factor
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:52 pm to
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No. The cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest." Fentayl, arterisclerosis, and the restraints used by the police were listed as contributory factors.



And the key will be prosecution getting him to say that he wouldn't have died from the first two without the third.
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:53 pm to
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It will be interesting how the prosecutors try and prove that factor


Did they ever release the coroners report?
Posted by theenemy
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:54 pm to
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Did they ever release the coroners report?


Yes
Posted by SOSFAN
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:02 pm to
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And the key will be prosecution getting him to say that he wouldn't have died from the first two without the third.


I thought I heard that if he would have been found dead at home it would have been listed as an overdose based off of the toxicology report.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:04 pm to
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I thought I heard that if he would have been found dead at home it would have been listed as an overdose based off of the toxicology report.


That is correcks.
I think it was in the ME's notes.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:05 pm to
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I thought I heard that if he would have been found dead at home it would have been listed as an overdose based off of the toxicology report.



Out of curiosity, where did you hear that? Not saying it's wrong or not. Just wanted to check it.
Posted by IT_Dawg
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:05 pm to
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It varies state by state, I know that in some states that they can charge you with a single count, but the defendant can be found guilty of a lesser. It appears in MN, you have to charge at every level.


Pretty sure in MN, he can be found guilty of all 3 as well...which to me is just stupid, especially since he only serves the penalty of the most severe charge

Also, because of the 3 charges they are pursuing, prosecution doesn't even have to prove that Chauvin "intentionally" killed him...
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:07 pm to
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That is correcks.


Ok that made everyone stare at me when I laughed out loud and I'm sitting in the back at a funeral.
Posted by Fe_Mike
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:07 pm to
Is there any weight to the counter statement, in that he wouldn’t have died from the third without the first two?
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:08 pm to
What's the point of these juvenile witnesses testifying?? I get that they're witnesses but are they trying to tug at heart strings?
Posted by IT_Dawg
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:09 pm to
This the firefighter chick??
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:09 pm to
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I thought I heard that if he would have been found dead at home it would have been listed as an overdose based off of the toxicology report.



Correct

LINK

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Floyd had 11 ng/mL of fentanyl in his system.



Fentanyl info

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Overdose results in respiratory depression which is reversible with naloxone. Sudden death can also occur because of cardiac arrest or severe anaphylactic reaction. The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anaesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved. While fatalities have been reported after therapeutic use, many deaths have occurred as a result of the misuse of pharmaceutical products. Both used and unused fentanyl patches have been injected, smoked, snorted or taken orally with fatal consequences.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:10 pm to
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but are they trying to tug at heart strings?


Of course. Facts don't matter to libs.
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 3:10 pm to
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What's the point of these juvenile witnesses testifying?? I get that they're witnesses but are they trying to tug at heart strings?


If the prosecution had any sense they would have had them as the last witnesses so it would make the jurors more emotional when deliberating.
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