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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:08 pm to
It's humorous watching these witnesses start to change the wording of their testimony when Nelson puts them in a spot that is favorable to Chauvin.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2720 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:08 pm to
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The prosecutors are being given a lot of latitude to lead
how many times has the judge scolded them for this now?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:09 pm to
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It's humorous watching these witnesses start to change the wording of their testimony when Nelson puts them in a spot that is favorable to Chauvin.




And she just got caught.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:10 pm to
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how many times has the judge scolded them for this now?


Exactly how far can a judge allow court officers to go when violating court procedure, and if there is a breaking point when the judge has to stop it, what can the judge impose?
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 2:11 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:10 pm to
I love how the defense is showing how emotional each of these witnesses is.
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
Tampa
Member since Jan 2019
1645 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:11 pm to
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And she just got caught.


Busted big time. And now of course Court TV cuts the live feed.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143804 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:13 pm to
Are any of our OT attorneys watching?

This whole proceeding appears to be Mickey Mouse to me.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20148 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:13 pm to
Ref the whole CHOKE thing.

There is a CHOKE and there is a STRANGLE.

Choke attacks air flow/breathing.

Strangle attacks blood flow.

The "EXPERT" should have known this and the Defense should have crucified him for not knowing it. There is no "blood choke". That's like saying a Gas Electric Car. They are different things. Putting the words together doesn't make it something.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216467 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:15 pm to
This thing is 10x worse than the OJ trial.......
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17745 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:16 pm to
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And now of course Court TV cuts the live feed.


I believe the judge said one of the jurors needed a bathroom break.

But I agree with the previous post about the defense showing how emotional these people were. They're walking right into the questioning too.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5731 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:17 pm to
I'm still amazed that I watch it and then the talking heads are coming on and saying stuff opposite to what I just saw. Jesus the media is so screwed up or I am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:18 pm to
You know, you can watch the raw feed on C-SPAN's website if you don't like CourtTV?
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5731 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:19 pm to
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You know, you can watch the raw feed on C-SPAN's website if you don't like CourtTV?


shite I'm watching CNN to see how far the realties differ.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147126 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:19 pm to
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quote:

It's humorous watching these witnesses start to change the wording of their testimony when Nelson puts them in a spot that is favorable to Chauvin.

And she just got caught.

please expand on this for those of us not watching
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15819 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:20 pm to
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what can the judge impose?


Couldn't he hold the prosecutor in contempt?

Of course if he does his house would be fire bombed tonight.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 2:21 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:21 pm to
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please expand on this for those of us not watching



On direct examination, she said she had not seen police check for a pulse. Buton cross examination, the defense brought up a September transcript in which did say she had seen police check for a pulse.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147126 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:21 pm to
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Exactly how far can a judge allow court officers to go when violating court procedure, and if there is a breaking point when the judge has to stop it, what can the judge impose?

I think (and I could be very, very wrong) at some point the judge can just declare a mistrial for prosecutorial misconduct

but this judge knows the eyes of the country are watching and doesn't want it to end that way

ETA: or as SOSFAN said above... contempt of court is always in play too
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6963 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:21 pm to
The defense is building some pretty good blocks for his closing argument. So far:
No witness so far was there to see the struggle prior to GF on ground.
One witness admitted they checked for a pulse multiple times and didn't change anything they were doing, which tells me he still had a pulse.
Karate man admitted when your the smaller opponent you have to use your center of gravity and submission techniques.
It's clear GF was way bigger than any of the officers.
One witness said at one point GF stopped "resisting".
There's a guy on almost every video telling GF to stop fighting and to just get in the car multiple times.

Anything else?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147126 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:22 pm to
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On direct examination, she said she had not seen police check for a pulse. Buton cross examination, the defense brought up a September transcript in which did say she had seen police check for a pulse.

Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17745 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:22 pm to
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the defense brought up a September transcript in which did say she had seen police check for a pulse.

"Multiple times" as well.
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