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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Just AMS, and calling that hack an expert would be a stretch of the term.



well the defense expert suggested it not me
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32851 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:15 pm to
This witness is validating what open minded people see in the video to some extent
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:16 pm to
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Because carbon monoxide is slightly lighter than air and also because it may be found with warm, rising air, detectors should be placed on a wall about 5 feet above the floor. The detector may be placed on the ceiling."


I'd imagine that if it being pushed down by force through a pipe (re combustion engine) some goes lower before it goes higher
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:17 pm to
I wonder which of the 20 attorneys for the state is handling cross. I heard a few objections but I couldn't tell which one it was.

Minnesota accents are too similar.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:18 pm to
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I wonder which of the 20 attorneys for the state is handling cross. I heard a few objections but I couldn't tell which one it was.

Minnesota accents are too similar.


Sounded like Blackwell to me but not positive.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92846 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:18 pm to
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Off the EPA website in regards to CO detector placement.


not talking a laboratory environment here
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
869 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:20 pm to
Great, since you have all the information on the subject please tell us exactly what the levels were near GF's head.

Don't worry I'll wait.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:21 pm to
I've never seen this picture of the drugs in GF mouth before

Why the frick are we here? This is fricked up
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11332 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:22 pm to
Expert - This was a sudden cardiac event

Heart vulnerable because it was too big
Drugs present that put arrhythmia in play
Fentanyl-Slows breathing and saturation levels
CO - Potential to rob oxygen capacity
Vessel constriction

All things stopping oxygen from getting to heart. At some point heart just stopped pumping blood. People don't suddenly stop breathing when they go unconscious. There was a very small window of time when Floyd appeared to go from functioning to limp.

Fentanyl-80x more powerful than morphine - Side effects slowing respiration. Results in decreased air exchange but not also getting rid of CO.

Image shown- Shows what appears to be a white object in back of Floyds mouth then Floyd turns head away. *Expert goofs and says he can still see pill when he meant to say he couldn't

Material found in seat with Floyds saliva on them.

Methamphetamine - Meth was in system. Meth can cause vessel constriction and heart to beat faster.

Methamphetamine - Wasn't in elimination phase still in the absorbing phase per toxicology.

paraganglioma - Tumor in lower abdominal area. Relevance is ones in that area will cause individual to by hypertensive and sudden surges in secretion.

Expert Conclusion - Mr Floyd died of cardiac arrhythmia due to disease during restraint. Contributing causes - Drugs, CO role, and tumor.

This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:25 pm to
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*Expert goofs and says he can still see pill when he meant to say he couldn't


I caught that.

Seems like Nelson is clearing it up now with "when did he take the fentanyl?"
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6968 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:27 pm to
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I've never seen this picture of the drugs in GF mouth before

Why the frick are we here? This is fricked up



You mean CNN hasn't covered this since it was known since last May??
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4893 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Image shown- Shows what appears to be a white object in back of Floyds mouth then Floyd turns head away. *Expert goofs and says he can still see pill when he meant to say he couldn't

Oh $hit, that's what I thought.


"Strike that"
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:28 pm to
Nelson said paraganglioma correctly and Fowler absolutely butchered it.

Para-gangli-oma.

Fowler is determined to say para-ganglion-oma.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 12:32 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92846 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Why the frick are we here? This is fricked up



wouldn't be surprised if the DA never wanted to prosecute but has received Bush(41,) level pressure to convict a cop, of anything
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71128 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Image shown- Shows what appears to be a white object in back of Floyds mouth then Floyd turns head away. *Expert goofs and says he can still see pill when he meant to say he couldn't


Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144072 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:33 pm to
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wouldn't be surprised if the DA never wanted to prosecute


Oh Keith Ellison wanted to prosecute the moment he found out a white cop was involved with a black guy.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:34 pm to
I think Nelson wraps this up by tomorrow or Friday. Hope tomorrow so closing arguments can be made on Friday to send the jury into deliberation over the weekend.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:34 pm to
Nelson is smart as hell
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Expert goofs and says he can still see pill when he meant to say he couldn't


How did the pills get into the cop car?

I assume GF spit some out while he was in there briefly.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92846 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:36 pm to
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Keith Ellison wanted to prosecute the moment he found out a white cop was involved with a black guy.



splains it, but not racist, couldn't possibly be, I'm not a fan of cops, don't have a high opinion of them, in general, but I don't know why any white male in the country would want to be a cop right now, it's a no win
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