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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7477 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:36 pm to
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Expert goofs and says he can still see pill when he meant to say he couldn't


if you indeed could see pills I doubt nelson wouldve shown the pic/clip and allowed the prosecution to hit on it during cross
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144072 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Hope tomorrow so closing arguments can be made on Friday


Judge already said closing arguments will not be until Monday since jury will be sequestered one they hear closing arguments.

He wants to make sure they get a full weekend of the biased media claiming what a slam dunk case the state presented.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2653 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:41 pm to
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I don't know why any white male in the country would want to be a cop right now, it's a no win
Because not all communities and departments are the same.

The two I worked for valued the product they put on the street, and it showed. Pay was higher for those with degrees, they pushed tuition reimbursement, promotions were capped for those without degrees, tons of IST, great bennies, you name it.

But that drove demand very high, so we tended to attract a better average candidate than most PDs and then we only hired from the top of those applicants.

I get your overall point, but there are a lot of departments out there who stand behind their men and women because they value the investment that they have in them.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6968 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:41 pm to
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He wants to make sure they get a full weekend of the biased media claiming what a slam dunk case the state presented.


I know you probably say this facetiously but it's pretty damn true...
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:42 pm to
This defense witness been devastating so far. It was boring at times but his presentation of actual scientific studies showing prone position WITH weights on top of the individual up to 225 lbs were safe. As well as the study showing that someone applying their knees to someone ont he ground doesn’t transmit 100% of their weight, it’s more like 30%.

He didn’t just have an opinion. He brought scientific facts.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104129 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:45 pm to
What are the cliffs here? Is Derek Chauvin going to burn or is Minneapolis going to burn again?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92846 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:45 pm to
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But that drove demand very high, so we tended to attract a better average candidate than most PDs and then we only hired from the top of those applicants.



ironically, I'll bet the crime rate went up because of the higher quality of hire?

quote:

there are a lot of departments out there who stand behind their men and women because they value the investment that they have in them.



meant no offense, that's why I threw in "in general"
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
869 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:47 pm to
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What are the cliffs here? Is Derek Chauvin going to burn or is Minneapolis going to burn again?


Probably No and definitely Yes no matter the outcome
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:48 pm to
Court TV is raking the State through the coals right now on their attempt to impeach the forensic pathologist. Something about them having 50,000 pages of documents to attempt to impeach his testimony with and the analysts are calling that absurd.

They are also saying how good this guy has been for the defense and have not only shown reasonable doubt but that it actually was something else that killed Floyd.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11332 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:50 pm to
We will see what prosecution does with this expert. Obviously he didn't go much into knee at all other than to say Floyd was fully responsive.

Prosecution will have to at least get him to say that restricting air flow would also be a contributing factor..would be my guess and that the prolonged use of that position and knee to the wherever area contributed.

Not sure how they can overcome him saying a cardiac event happened.

Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35436 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:52 pm to
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at restricting air flow would also be a contributing factor.


Their own expert said restriction would have to occur on both sides of the neck

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144072 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:53 pm to
Funny. The HLN panel is saying the opposite. They are still twisting themselves in knots saying things like the “jury wasn’t paying attention”. and all kinds of other crazy things.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56578 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:54 pm to
When are they going to hammer away at the numerous times Mr. Floyd said he could not breathe in the back seat when no one was touching him?

1. Heart disease?
2. Artery blockage?
3. Drug use?
4. Anxiety?
5. Panic attack?
6. Lied to get out of car to lie down in street?


If I'm the defense, I make the case...he was dying before the knee.

Its all on tape
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24088 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Judge already said closing arguments will not be until Monday since jury will be sequestered one they hear closing arguments.

He wants to make sure they get a full weekend of the biased media claiming what a slam dunk case the state presented.


He said he didn't want to ruin their weekend plans. That is almost unbelievable. Their plans?? Wouldn't it be better to be sequestered over the weekend so they can be back to their normal lives ASAP?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:56 pm to
And this witness today just said that the compression of the hypopharynx hypothesis is a joke, and that a search of medical literature didn’t show any evidence to support it.

You know he was on to something because the prosecution started freaking out and objecting, but the judge didn’t even let them do a sidebar
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144072 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:56 pm to
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What are the cliffs here? Is Derek Chauvin going to burn or is Minneapolis going to burn again?


I think if you had a strong opinion one way or the other you still have that option.

If you are somehow objective, I think the state did a really poor job of proving their case.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92846 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:56 pm to
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That is almost unbelievable.


it is completely unbelievable coming from a judge's mouth
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:57 pm to
But our physician consult here said the hypopharynx was the smoking gun
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:58 pm to
Anyone claiming the hypopharynx compression hypothesis doesn’t understand basic anatomy
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144072 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:59 pm to
AMS went on for a hundred pages with that crushed hyperpharynx bull shite.

Bless her heat. She is passionate if nothing else.
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