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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:06 pm to
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George Floyd family member will testify


Were they there?
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:06 pm to
That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen if true.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11205 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:07 pm to
I don’t think speeding tickets or drunk in publics warrant police brutality. If you do hood rat shite, for example, taking a bunch of drugs, and wrestling with police, you probably deserve the brutality
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 4:09 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15921 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:08 pm to
And we're still waiting to hear your explanation as to why you were wrong about Floyds fentanyl level being to low to OD.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:09 pm to
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You are thinking of it incorrectly.

He didn’t die from cardio pulmonary arrest because of being in police custody.

He died from cardio pulmonary arrest while in police custody.

That’s the definition for homicide in medical terms.


nope. if he had a heart attack and died while in police custody that would be natural cause death. remember dereck todd lee died of a heart attack in police custody and that was not a homicide.

homicide means another person caused the death. just being in custody isnt fatal, but subdual and restraint was the straw that broke the camels back.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:12 pm to
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homicide means another person caused the death


Another person was involved, not caused. This instance it was police involvement.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:14 pm to
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But you have stated that Floyds level was too low to OD period.


I said his levels were below what you would expect to see in an OD death. because his levels were well below the median OD levels even in cases where the person survived. i didnt mean his levels were outside the bottom outliers.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:14 pm to
You’re so full of shite. Pages and pages of your nonsense.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:14 pm to
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And we're still waiting to hear your explanation as to why you were wrong about Floyds fentanyl level being to low to OD.



well GFs levels were too low for GF to OD in the given circumstances.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 4:15 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41368 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:15 pm to
No healthy person is dying from what Chauvin did

Junkie George OD’d
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26740 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:15 pm to
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nope. if he had a heart attack and died while in police custody that would be natural cause death. remember dereck todd lee died of a heart attack in police custody and that was not a homicide.

You are going to get downvoted cause you are a piece of shite and have been wrong a number of times, but you are correkt here

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homicide means another person was considered part of the cause of death

Fify. Also, it’s an opinion and medical term they are using. You seem to lose sight of that constantly.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:17 pm to
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Another person was involved, not caused. This instance it was police involvement.



nope

quote:

According to the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME), “[h]omicide occurs when death results from a volitional act committed by another person to cause fear, harm, or death.”


it means the death was a result of the actions of another.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26740 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:17 pm to
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well GFs levels were too low for GF to OD in the given circumstances


See, you are wrong again and still trying to defend this bullshite like it’s fact. Shows how biased you are viewing this trial and why you are so defensive and upset when the defense does well.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:17 pm to
I would argue that even unhealthy people that didn’t consume massive amounts of drugs wouldn’t die from what Chauvin did.

The left has the most worthless heroes.
Posted by PurpleFin
Member since Apr 2017
91 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:18 pm to
So AMS, if the ME said there was no physical proof of asphyxiation and that asphyxiation didn’t cause his death (which he just said) how did DC cause GF’s death?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:19 pm to
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well GFs levels were too low for GF to OD.


Just because one is a professional drug user, doesn't mean you can exceede the lethal limit every time and live.

Add in using fake bills, appearing high, saying he had taken nothing - if he did, EMS would have been there sooner, and cops probably wouldn't put him in prone - heart cranking with blood pressure and heart issues.

I have high blood pressure and I'm in healthy shape, hereditary, and anxiety from military, I could never imagine taking meth or fentnyl with how I feel. I'm 30, GF much older.

Another thing that's trippy is GF being said to be in good health, well dude probably never went to doctor for preventative medicine. Wonder if he took meds for heart problems, or if he even knew. I wish they'd explore that.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26740 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Another person was involved, not caused. This instance it was police involvement.


You’re actually wrong here and a lot of people in here agree with you. In ME terms, it actually does mean the ME believes another person was part of the cause of death.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:21 pm to
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Fify. Also, it’s an opinion and medical term they are using. You seem to lose sight of that constantly.



I am not losing sight of that, it is what I have been referring to. the ME determined DC's actions caused GF's death with other contributing factors. the defense has not contested this yet. they are trying to focus on contributing factors to avoid higher charges.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:22 pm to
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See, you are wrong again and still trying to defend this bullshite like it’s fact


well there has not been any facts countering this. There has been no testimony that GF succumbed to a fatal OD.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26740 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:29 pm to
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No healthy person is dying from what Chauvin did


Most likely, you are correct. However, the fact is that GF was unresponsive for several minutes and DC continued to have his knee on GF. Unfortunately, it doesn’t matter what would’ve happened to someone else
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