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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:45 pm to
quote:


Someone doesn't know the definition of a straw man.


except the part where i never said there doesnt need to be a fair trial, lock him up forever, no need to tell the other side....

so yea that would be a straw man. she invented a position I never held.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Boom. Drugs and shite played a role in the death. I like how ME keeps calling Nelson counselor


And there is your reasonable doubt.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32150 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

"drugs played a role in Mr. Floyd's death?
"In my opinion, yes."

Boom.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14105 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:49 pm to
This testimony is fascinating everything else aside.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23943 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:49 pm to
I hit the rewind button as soon as he said that. Mic drop
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

And there is your reasonable doubt.



that doesnt preclude manslaughter.
hypothetically, your grandpa overdosed on fentanyl and you were caught holding a pillow over his head would you expect to be charged?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60195 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

drugs played a role in Mr. Floyd's death?
"In my opinion, yes."

Boom.


Checkmate
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5738 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:50 pm to
ME saying he didn't look at videos on purpose before the autopsy is because he didn't want to have a preconceived notion of what happened and it could cause him to skip steps or come to conclusions - Nelson could not have written that better himself.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130492 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

"drugs played a role in Mr. Floyd's death?
"In my opinion, yes."


yikes
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
77533 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:50 pm to
Hell yeah it is. I’m enjoying this.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14105 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

that doesnt preclude manslaughter.
hypothetically, your grandpa overdosed on fentanyl and you were caught holding a pillow over his head would you expect to be charged?


What manslaughter statute is he being charged under? What are the elements?

Maybe. Maybe not.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

youre twisting the argument again. we were specifically discussing 90% blockage being lethal. There has been no testimony claiming 90% blockage would be lethal.


I’m not going to entertain you anymore. Those of us watching the trial know what was said.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:51 pm to
Floyd's heart weight was bigger than expected... even when considering his height & weight
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:51 pm to
This is big going into the weekend. The jury will have all weekend to digest today.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

except the part where i never said there doesnt need to be a fair trial, lock him up forever, no need to tell the other side....

so yea that would be a straw man. she invented a position I never


Did I not just say she was using Google to formulate ( Ams that means " to make") an argument...
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45389 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:52 pm to
As someone who believes the police have wrong doing here, I feel like the prosecution is going after the wrong person. The guy coming in hot dropping F-bombs escalated the situation. Him and that other guy trying to force GF in the back of the police vehicle. Just set him on the curb and call a medic. Based on evidence, I don't see how you can charge DC.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15918 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Floyd's heart weight was bigger than expected..


Floyd was extremely agitated so his enlarged heart was trying to pump faster and faster. Meth already had it sped up.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147222 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:54 pm to
75% blockage in the coronary arteries is considered potentially able to cause a sudden death

GF had ~75% blockage there
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:54 pm to
quote:


that doesnt preclude manslaughter.

Still need 12 people to agree

Which they won’t. There’s too much reasonable doubt.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56575 posts
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Floyd was extremely agitated so his enlarged heart was trying to pump faster and faster. Meth already had it sped up.


That would explain "i can't breathe"

When No one was touching him
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