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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:01 pm to JDPndahizzy
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:01 pm to JDPndahizzy
It sounds to be like the female is either unbias or bias in favor of chauvin and the MIL is trying to be a dick
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:02 pm to JDPndahizzy
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I find it interesting that the mid forties female white juror disclosed to the judge this morning that her mother in law sent her a text last night saying- not a good day for the defense.... she said she didn’t respond and the judge said no improper conduct...
does this mean her mother in law is for or against the defense?
I imagine with mass media, it's hard to create a 100 percent impartial bubble around a jury. (Even if they were sequestered after the start of trial, this is the biggest story since forever. They've all been exposed to partial, non-objective opinions about it long before they were summoned for jury duty.) So some practical considerations have to be made. But there's got to be a limit, practically speaking, to what is allowed?
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:09 pm to JDPndahizzy
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I find it interesting that the mid forties female white juror disclosed to the judge this morning that her mother in law sent her a text last night saying- not a good day for the defense.... she said she didn’t respond and the judge said no improper conduct...
I'm still blown away that the jury wasn't sequestered for this trial. Arguably the most public trial since the OJ trail and the judge's instructions were to "try and avoid any coverage of the trial."
Like, really?
Especially given the current climate surrounding the bias in today's media.
ETA: and I'm talking bias going both ways depending on which network or website you happen to be viewing at the moment.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:09 pm to UndercoverBryologist
I just heard on court tv that the judge specifically asked her about it like he already knew about the text... weird... and he asked her a question about a book deal... even more weird..
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:13 pm to ApexTiger
There is no way I’m missing the next witness. Chief County ME who did the initial autopsy.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:13 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Here's the crux of today's testimony so far. If GF was found dead at home, they would rule it an OD. But since he wasn't, it has to be homicide. She said that police restraint was the ultimate cause. Here's my question, and I hope the jurors are thinking this also: If everything happened, as it did, but GF had not taken drugs, would he have died?
HLN...They are discounting hypotheticals...
Just going with cops are reason he stopped breathing
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:15 pm to greygoose
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If everything happened, as it did, but GF had not taken drugs, would he have died?
That my friend, is the 1 million dollar question!
It’s literally the only question that needs answering to make up minds...
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:15 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:So, does that not go to reasonable doubt?
That my friend, is the 1 million dollar question!
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:17 pm to greygoose
Absofrickinglutely
Question is, will each juror allow that to raise reasonable doubt?
Question is, will each juror allow that to raise reasonable doubt?
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:18 pm to WaydownSouth
Our covid positive residents were undeednout prone when needed — it helped their oxygen levels improve. That said they weren’t on the drugs GF was.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:25 pm to JDPndahizzy
We all know that Chauvin was trained to restrain a combative suspect in the manner he did. Chauvin suspected he was intoxicated on something. An ambulance was dispatched. So right there, we can throw out intent. Autopsy found no physical evidence of manual asphyxiation. It also found 90% occlusion of heart vessels, an enlarged heart, and the presence of extremely strong narcotics in his system. If I'm a juror, GF death was caused by GF.
Imagine a person robs a store. Police catch up with that person. A fight ensues. Suspect has a heart attack during the fight and dies. The police are guilty of murder 2? Manslaughter?
This is what the prosecution wants the jury to believe.
Imagine a person robs a store. Police catch up with that person. A fight ensues. Suspect has a heart attack during the fight and dies. The police are guilty of murder 2? Manslaughter?
This is what the prosecution wants the jury to believe.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:26 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:Just need one.
uestion is, will each juror allow that to raise reasonable doubt?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:26 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Arteries are elastic and regain their shape once a compressive force is removed. The pharynx is cartilaginous/bony and will remain deformed once severely compressed.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:26 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:
That my friend, is the 1 million dollar question!
It’s literally the only question that needs answering to make up minds...
you left about $26M off the cost of that question
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:27 pm to tiger91
I don’t know if experts are usually this biased but this is crazy
She knows from a cellphone video that Floyd...
didn’t show any signs of overdose
didn’t have a fatal cardiac arrhythmia
had a anoxic seizure
That’s pretty amazing for a doctor who hasn’t seen a living patient in probably 40 years who is watching a cellphone video
If I was Nelson I would ask her “when is the last time you examined a living patient? When is the last time you evaluated someone during an overdose or fatal cardiac arrhythmia, or actually witnessed an anoxic seizure? When is the last time you diagnosed a patient with nothing more than a cellphone video?
She knows from a cellphone video that Floyd...
didn’t show any signs of overdose
didn’t have a fatal cardiac arrhythmia
had a anoxic seizure
That’s pretty amazing for a doctor who hasn’t seen a living patient in probably 40 years who is watching a cellphone video
If I was Nelson I would ask her “when is the last time you examined a living patient? When is the last time you evaluated someone during an overdose or fatal cardiac arrhythmia, or actually witnessed an anoxic seizure? When is the last time you diagnosed a patient with nothing more than a cellphone video?
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:29 pm to rt3
quote:
you left about $26M off the cost of that question
Touche’
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:29 pm to Adsam
quote:I might have missed it, but didn't the witnesses say hypoxia via compression was the cause. I don't recall any of them stating that compression of the carotid arteries was the cause.
Arteries are elastic and regain their shape once a compressive force is removed. The pharynx is cartilaginous/bony and will remain deformed once severely compressed.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:32 pm to greygoose
quote:
stating that compression of the carotid arteries was the cause.
They can’t say that because that causes you to pass out in less than 10 seconds.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 1:32 pm to greygoose
quote:
I might have missed it, but didn't the witnesses say hypoxia via compression was the cause. I don't recall any of them stating that compression of the carotid arteries was the cause.
He was responding to my argument with another poster last night.
Someone said that Floyd died because his hypopharynx was compressed from both sides of the neck. The hypopharynx contains a bone and cartilage structures and would take a lot of force to compress.
My question was how did his carotid arteries not compress first, thus rendering him unconscious within the first 10 seconds of the restraint.
I never got an answer.
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