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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:31 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:31 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I’m trying to speak at the level of someone with no knowledge of anatomy.
I’d say you’re doing an excellent job of getting on their level.
Seriously though, the layperson can handle something like the difference of bone and cartilage. Even someone who didn’t graduate from high school knows the difference between their ears/tip of nose and their bones.
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YOU WOULD AGREE, that there are cartilage rings in the larynx as well as the hyoid bone right?
The larynx is partly made up of cartilage, which has very different physical properties than bone. As a person ages, it’ll will often calcify and get more brittle, but George was still in his forties despite his many years of hard living.
The hyoid bone can be fractured with neck injuries, but that is also not a guarantee in even with strangulation, which is the best case scenario to cause visible neck injuries during autopsy.
The Medical examiner has to testify tomorrow and he will be heavily questioned about the lack of injuries at autopsy. At least prior to his testimony, I think that most here would agree that he will be as close to an impartial expert witness as this case will have.
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:32 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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You want to dispute that?
What am I supposed to dispute about an image of a neck?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:35 pm to AMS
If you look at AMS's post history, she had already convicted Chauvin in her mind and deemed "all police are bad!" back in May.
If you start here she has several pages STRAIGHT of posts in different threads on this very topic where she can only keep pushing Chauvin's guilt, saying she agrees with the rioters, condemning police due to Chauvin, etc.
It's borderline obsessive when you see the history and how she has deemed his guilt from the start, with zero relevant facts other than a single video available at the time. Y'all are arguing with someone that is clearly biased and stubborn, and seems like they naturally hate police.
So, AMS, what interactions with police have you had in your life that caused this obsessive hatred? Anyone I've ever known that just despises all police have been trashy drug users or criminals that think the police are to blame for their mistakes.
If you start here she has several pages STRAIGHT of posts in different threads on this very topic where she can only keep pushing Chauvin's guilt, saying she agrees with the rioters, condemning police due to Chauvin, etc.
It's borderline obsessive when you see the history and how she has deemed his guilt from the start, with zero relevant facts other than a single video available at the time. Y'all are arguing with someone that is clearly biased and stubborn, and seems like they naturally hate police.
So, AMS, what interactions with police have you had in your life that caused this obsessive hatred? Anyone I've ever known that just despises all police have been trashy drug users or criminals that think the police are to blame for their mistakes.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:36 pm to AMS
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ok the 5th explanation will be the last one you get.
you are cracking me up quote:
hypopharynx is located BELOW the hyoid bone
This is wrong, but I’ll play along
Compressing the area below the hyoid bone is not possible. It’s thick cartilage tissue, if you compress it the hyoid bone would break. In fact the hyoid bone would be more likely to break with lateral compression.
Do you not understand that these cartilages are round?
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:36 pm to RazorBroncs
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So, AMS, what interactions with police have you had in your life that caused this obsessive hatred?
Nah, she's just a racist. If Chauvin was a minority we'd never see her post here.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:36 pm to RazorBroncs
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deemed "all police are bad!" back in May.
why do posters like her have to lie about direct quotes I never made. very emotional response. must be your time of the month, go get some more rags you are bleeding everywhere
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:38 pm to AMS
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very emotional response. must be your time of the month, go get some more rags you are bleeding everywhere
We don’t period shame here bro
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:38 pm to AMS
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why do posters like her have to lie about direct quotes I never made. very emotional response. must be your time of the month, go get some more rags you are bleeding everywhere
Nice deflection, but your post history quite clearly shows your blatant racism.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:38 pm to AMS
50 members of law enforcement, mostly FBI and 14 of some of the supposedly brightest legal minds in the nation are nearing their portion of the trial where it is up to them to meet the burden of guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
The charges.
second degree unintentional felony murder - For the first charge of second degree unintentional felony murder, the state needs to prove Chauvin committed a felony, in this case assault, and it led to Floyd’s death. this means proving that Chauvin knew he was committing a crime and that he was assaulting Floyd when the 46-year-old died as a result.
third degree “depraved mind” murder - means that the prosecution must prove Chauvin caused the death of Floyd with an act “eminently dangerous to others… without regard for human life.”
Manslaughter in the 2nd degree -by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another
none of that up there has been proven. not even a little bit.
poor lil ol Eric Nelson and his one assistant that passed the bar 2 months ago haven't even had a chance to present their case.
The charges.
second degree unintentional felony murder - For the first charge of second degree unintentional felony murder, the state needs to prove Chauvin committed a felony, in this case assault, and it led to Floyd’s death. this means proving that Chauvin knew he was committing a crime and that he was assaulting Floyd when the 46-year-old died as a result.
third degree “depraved mind” murder - means that the prosecution must prove Chauvin caused the death of Floyd with an act “eminently dangerous to others… without regard for human life.”
Manslaughter in the 2nd degree -by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another
none of that up there has been proven. not even a little bit.
poor lil ol Eric Nelson and his one assistant that passed the bar 2 months ago haven't even had a chance to present their case.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:41 pm to Yellerhammer5
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What am I supposed to dispute about an image of a neck?
What area of the hypopharynx was compressed without breaking any cartilage or bones?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:44 pm to AMS
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no ma'am its because I understand the evidence found in the autopsy and have seen the videos.
the medical examiner and the video evidence do not jive
that doctor today, sounded biased, paid and bought
it was obvious listening on the radio, he was full of his on expertise...no way would his pride allow him to see something else that took place in the videos provided by police... I mean dang
wait until the defense get up there and destroys this guys arguments as an "expert"....
bottom line, Floyd was on Drugs...before the arrest
he OD twice the month before from taking irregular sized pills bought from his drug dealer
his Girl friend said as much, same happened the day he died
And why are Floyd's pills (DNA) in the backseat of the Police car? Why are there crumbs of crushed up pills in the backseat?
why did Floyd say "I ate too many pills?"
why did Floyd say he couldn't break 15 times when no-one was touching him?
the autopsy can only explain so much...after-all, it's a dead person...it doesn't tell us everything...just like the doctor tried to explain you can choke someone and there not be evidence of it in the tissue, no bruises and so forth
the video explains so much more what happened
You have look at the life and track record of Floyd
you look at what the girlfriend told us about Floyd, his addiction and his actions that day
He swallowed more drugs after he gave the clerk a fake 20...
within the hour he was done
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:45 pm to AMS
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which of those so called 'bones' is located to the lateral aspect of the hypopharynx?
All of them. They are circular.
You are thoroughly demonstrating how uninformed you are on this topic
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:46 pm to tiger91
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You don’t take a break do you??
She took a break yesterday after Nelson kicked the prosecutions arse. She stayed in bed hugging her blm doll.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:47 pm to AMS
Bruh, I just linked your obsessive post history on the topic from BACK IN MAY.
You can't hide, it's all there for everyone to see.
You condemned Chauvin from the jump and obsessed over it for months, and you can't deny it because the evidence is literally available to anyone to view.
You're not gonna do anything but deflect and find every reason you can to fit your preconceived guilt even in the face of new facts, video angles, reasonable doubt, basic human anatomy, changes in the very fabric of the case (knee on the back of the neck is now "clearly on the SIDE of his neck guyz!"), etc., that much has become obvious.
And you keep going. You were obsessed back in May, almost a year ago, and you're obsessed now.
So I ask again: how many times have you been arrested? What have "the big bad unfair cops" done to you for you to be so biased?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:47 pm to RazorBroncs
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If you look at AMS's post history, she had already convicted Chauvin in her mind and deemed "all police are bad!" back in May.
A number of us in this thread initially thought that this was a clear case of police brutality so I don't think you can use any posts from last year as proof of anything. Now, I do think AMS has her(?) mind made up about Chauvin's guilt but she's not on the jury so she doesn't have to follow the innocent until proven guilty standard. Public opinion in a lot of high profilw cases is guilty until proved innocent. Public vs legal opinion are different.
I came into the trial thinking Chauvin was guilty of something but wanted the law applied either way. So far I think the defense has shown reasonable doubt and "won" 8 of the 9 days with today being the best for the State. I'm extremely interested in the ME testimony as, ideally, he should be the most impartial even though I think there are doubts there based on the initial report, prior to viewing any videos, saying one thing and then the final report, after viewing videos, saying another.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:47 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Compressing the area below the hyoid bone is not possible. It’s think cartilage tissue, if you compress it the hyoid bone would break.
how much more incorrect can you be? the superior border is the hyoid bone, which means most of the hypopharynx is inferior to the hyoid bone (although a portion exists in the same plane as the hyoid bone).
yes you certainly can compress the hypopharynx below the hyoid bone. have you ever heard of cricoid pressure? it is certainly possible to compress the hypopharynx with a small amount of force, it has clinical utility, and does not fracture the hyoid bone.
sorry 6th time im done now for real because I just couldnt believe you provide me pictures that contradict your clearly lacking anatomy knowledge. just yikes man throw in the towel.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:48 pm to RazorBroncs
I mean it's pretty clear she hates white people.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:49 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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All of them. They are circular.
You are thoroughly demonstrating how uninformed you are on this topic
tell me more about all the circular 'bones' that house the entirety of the hypopharynx.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:50 pm to Centinel
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Centinel
I gotta say you are a grade A troll
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:51 pm to Centinel
I don't know if she hates white people or not. But I suspect she dates black men. That explains her bias.
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