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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:00 pm to CptRusty
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:00 pm to CptRusty
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Nelson about to ask if this analysis includes the presence of other drugs, like for example: methamphetamine.
Yes it does. It was the mix of all the shite in his system that did him in.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:01 pm to momentoftruth87
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He was dead, but still alive iirc.
Schrodinger's Junkie?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:02 pm to CptRusty
quote:prosecution getting to that themselves. Curious to how Nelson responds.
Nelson about to ask if this analysis includes the presence of other drugs, like for example: methamphetamine.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:02 pm to CptRusty
Sorry, but I think the prosecution needs to shorten questioning and be more concise about the point they trying to make.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:04 pm to hnds2th
Prosecution has to make it seem important, but have no point. Defense is always on it 
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:05 pm to momentoftruth87
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No, their main defense w the drugs is that he was a druggie and the high levels in toxicology is low for him
quote:Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.
Bizarre ain’t it?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:05 pm to Ryan3232
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Defense attorney is white. Prosecution is black.
Wait, the defense team didn’t make sure to have a black man defending Chauvin??
Massive error to have a white guy defending Chauvin, if that is what they did. Why unnecessarily stack the deck against your client? They knew this trial was going to be about getting Whitey and making Whitey pay for all his Whitey horribleness.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:08 pm to LightMerchant
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Wait, the defense team didn’t make sure to have a black man defending Chauvin??
Massive error to have a white guy defending Chauvin, if that is what they did. Why unnecessarily stack the deck against your client? They knew this trial was going to be about getting Whitey and making Whitey pay for all his Whitey horribleness.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:08 pm to sabes que
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Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.
You're not wrong but that also doesn't mean that other factors can't cause an adverse reaction even with an amount of drugs you're otherwise used to. There is video of Floyd clearly high and feeling the effects of some sort of drugs. Then as he was being arrested he swallowed other drugs. That in combination with the adrenaline surge and anxiety caused by being arrested could interact with that, otherwise, low level of drugs and cause an issue, no?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:10 pm to MFn GIMP
Also lethal limit is just that. One time, or many times, doesn't mean the next won't be fatal.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:11 pm to MFn GIMP
Nelson is soooo much better at breaking technical testimony down for dummies.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:11 pm to Ryan3232
Use your words like mommy taught you. I know you can do it.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:11 pm to hnds2th
Nelson just told that bitch off lulz. "It's a hypothetical!"
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:12 pm to sabes que
quote:Also sickle cell trait, heart disease, CV19, physical exertion...
Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:12 pm to momentoftruth87
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Nelson just told that bitch off lulz. "It's a hypothetical!"
what's the backstory on this?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:12 pm to hnds2th
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Nelson is soooo much better at breaking technical testimony down for dummies.
I watched the video on him someone posted. He's a good dude and says he has made many friendships w jurors after the fact. He's a Saint for DC.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:13 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Also sickle cell trait, heart disease, CV19, physical exertion...
It’s all going to come down to the medical examiners.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:13 pm to sabes que
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Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.
You don't need to prove the drugs killed him alone, you just need to prove the drugs + his health condition created the outcome.
Also remember he had 3x the lethal limit of fentanyl+ meth.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:14 pm to sabes que
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Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.
I agree with everything you say here. And I will add to it by bringing my opinion to the legal side of it. If the tox report says he had a lethal amount of fentanyl (even though that means for a normal person), it at the very least creates reasonable doubt, in that it is possible that the drugs killed him, not DC. And that's all the defense needs.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:16 pm to LightMerchant
quote:you’re either new or an alter, but Im legitimately interested in this trial and dont feel to clog this thread with your dumb shite. I made a random observation and thats it. Let it go bud, itll be okay I promise.
LightMerchant
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