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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:00 pm to
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Nelson about to ask if this analysis includes the presence of other drugs, like for example: methamphetamine.


Yes it does. It was the mix of all the shite in his system that did him in.
Posted by Original Corn Pop
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:01 pm to
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He was dead, but still alive iirc.


Schrodinger's Junkie?
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:02 pm to
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Nelson about to ask if this analysis includes the presence of other drugs, like for example: methamphetamine.
prosecution getting to that themselves. Curious to how Nelson responds.
Posted by hnds2th
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:02 pm to
Sorry, but I think the prosecution needs to shorten questioning and be more concise about the point they trying to make.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:04 pm to
Prosecution has to make it seem important, but have no point. Defense is always on it
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:05 pm to
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No, their main defense w the drugs is that he was a druggie and the high levels in toxicology is low for him
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Bizarre ain’t it?
Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Defense attorney is white. Prosecution is black.


Wait, the defense team didn’t make sure to have a black man defending Chauvin??

Massive error to have a white guy defending Chauvin, if that is what they did. Why unnecessarily stack the deck against your client? They knew this trial was going to be about getting Whitey and making Whitey pay for all his Whitey horribleness.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Wait, the defense team didn’t make sure to have a black man defending Chauvin??

Massive error to have a white guy defending Chauvin, if that is what they did. Why unnecessarily stack the deck against your client? They knew this trial was going to be about getting Whitey and making Whitey pay for all his Whitey horribleness.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:08 pm to
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Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.


You're not wrong but that also doesn't mean that other factors can't cause an adverse reaction even with an amount of drugs you're otherwise used to. There is video of Floyd clearly high and feeling the effects of some sort of drugs. Then as he was being arrested he swallowed other drugs. That in combination with the adrenaline surge and anxiety caused by being arrested could interact with that, otherwise, low level of drugs and cause an issue, no?
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:10 pm to
Also lethal limit is just that. One time, or many times, doesn't mean the next won't be fatal.
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:11 pm to
Nelson is soooo much better at breaking technical testimony down for dummies.
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
221 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:11 pm to
Use your words like mommy taught you. I know you can do it.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:11 pm to
Nelson just told that bitch off lulz. "It's a hypothetical!"
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2652 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.

Also sickle cell trait, heart disease, CV19, physical exertion...
Posted by rt3
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Nelson just told that bitch off lulz. "It's a hypothetical!"

what's the backstory on this?
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Nelson is soooo much better at breaking technical testimony down for dummies.


I watched the video on him someone posted. He's a good dude and says he has made many friendships w jurors after the fact. He's a Saint for DC.
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
Tampa
Member since Jan 2019
1645 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:13 pm to
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Also sickle cell trait, heart disease, CV19, physical exertion...


It’s all going to come down to the medical examiners.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
64404 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:13 pm to
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Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.




You don't need to prove the drugs killed him alone, you just need to prove the drugs + his health condition created the outcome.


Also remember he had 3x the lethal limit of fentanyl+ meth.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11640 posts
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Ok I realize I am walking into the lion’s den here. And I am not commenting on the case as a whole or anything other than this. But, one’s tolerance to a certain drug absolutely goes up with consistent use, just like the guy that was posted about on here the other day that had like a .6 or something ungodly blood alcohol level and was driving around. A normal person would have been comatose at that level. Same with drugs, Kurt Cobain had like 4 times the lethal dose of heroin(for a normal person) in his blood when he shot himself. Now again I am not commenting on the case as a whole, I am not even saying he didn’t OD. I am saying that it’s not totally stupid or bizarre to suggest the levels in his blood wouldn’t affect him like they would a normal person if he was indeed a habitual user of the particular drug/drugs.


I agree with everything you say here. And I will add to it by bringing my opinion to the legal side of it. If the tox report says he had a lethal amount of fentanyl (even though that means for a normal person), it at the very least creates reasonable doubt, in that it is possible that the drugs killed him, not DC. And that's all the defense needs.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:16 pm to
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LightMerchant
you’re either new or an alter, but Im legitimately interested in this trial and dont feel to clog this thread with your dumb shite. I made a random observation and thats it. Let it go bud, itll be okay I promise.
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