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Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:41 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:Im watching on ABC and the columnists interviewed that were black were cheering for the prosecution and one white guy thought nelson and the defense did good. Defense attorney is white. Prosecution is black. This is gonna be such a race war ending.....
I'm just a white supremacist following, not a medical Dr lol
Im not here to pick sides, im here for the knowledge. This will be a memorable trial for as long as we live imo.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:42 pm to Ryan3232
quote:
To also add, ive heard of people streamlining on the heart rate machine (my terminology is bad, but when hooked up to the machine and its a flat line with no pulse) and then getting that pulse back after CPR.
BUT was he breathing at all or showing ANY signs of life when he entered the ambulance. Youd think TOD would be shortly after he got in ambulance. I have so many questions
an EMT can't make an official pronunciation of death... only a doctor
yes they can get on the radio and talk to a doctor and get a pronunciation if it's beyond obvious there's no coming back (like say a gun shot to the skull)
I imagine in this case there was no pronunciation of death until he got to the hospital
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:44 pm to rt3
quote:
I imagine in this case there was no pronunciation of death until he got to the hospital
No pulse at hospital iirc, but they still performed life saving techniques for a period of time.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:45 pm to rt3
quote:okay. Thats what I thought but wasnt sure. With that said, i want to know if he was breathing in the ambulance even if barely breathing or if he was in the same state from getting up off the ground, to ambulance, to hospital. This has probably all been answered all the way back to that day, but I think it has some significant bearing.
an EMT can't make an official pronunciation of death... only a doctor
yes they can get on the radio and talk to a doctor and get a pronunciation if it's beyond obvious there's no coming back (like say a gun shot to the skull)
I imagine in this case there was no pronunciation of death until he got to the hospital
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:46 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:
Yea, but this guy won’t agree with Nelson. Continuing to try and get him to say it, and not getting him to say it, makes it come across as important to the defense for him to say it.
It is a pretty well know adage amongst trial attorneys that you don’t try to win your case with the other side’s expert witness. Generally, all you expect to do is undercut, show bias, etc.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:46 pm to rt3
quote:
an EMT can't make an official pronunciation of death... only a doctor
This is true. Kinda reminds me of the ol, No one has ever died on an airplane one
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:48 pm to IT_Dawg
Is the State trying to argue that the drugs in Floyd's system were actually because he was taking a prescription drug to treat his opioid addiction?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:49 pm to Gamera
quote:
It is a pretty well know adage amongst trial attorneys that you don’t try to win your case with the other side’s expert witness. Generally, all you expect to do is undercut, show bias, etc.
Exactly. Shouldn't have went after this witness the way he did.
Probably better off sticking to WHY this guy was doing it for free. his BIAS. Dude makes $500/hr normally, but put HUNDREDS of hours into this one for free....WHY. To better his own career of course. To get bought for expert testimonies in the future. Wouldn't work out if he didn't come across well for the prosecution, so he was playing that part to promote himself.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:50 pm to MFn GIMP
No, their main defense w the drugs is that he was a druggie and the high levels in toxicology is low for him
Bizarre ain't it?
Bizarre ain't it?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:
He was dead, but still alive iirc.
Like Darth
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:51 pm to momentoftruth87
I’m not watching b/c I know it would make my blood boil. Are medical professionals testifying that heavy pressure on the SIDE of the neck, and not on the windpipe, can restrict air-flow to the lungs to where it kills the person?
Or are they only testifying that a knee to side of neck can restrict blood to the brain ( which would not cause the person to say they cannot BREATHE or in any manner restrict their BREATHING )?
All these people have bought that Floyd’s breathing was restricted by knee on side of neck, nowhere near the throat / windpipe. Something I do not think possible, as that demo by Crowder suggests / evidences.
Watching it unfold, do you get the impression that the docs testifying for the prosecution are saying what they know will please Woke and have sold out their professional integrity for political correctness?
I saw a short clip of the ER doc. He looks very young and being that he is young he’s more likely to have bought into the narrative of Woke. And more likely to say what will put him in good favor with the Twitter-mob. I don’t know why but the second I saw what he looks like I figured he’s afflicted with Woke and will say whatever the Prosecution wants him to say. This is judging the book by the cover, but it’s what I did.
Did the ER doc come across as a straight-shooter or more as willing to contort himself to bolster the prosecution?
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Or are they only testifying that a knee to side of neck can restrict blood to the brain ( which would not cause the person to say they cannot BREATHE or in any manner restrict their BREATHING )?
All these people have bought that Floyd’s breathing was restricted by knee on side of neck, nowhere near the throat / windpipe. Something I do not think possible, as that demo by Crowder suggests / evidences.
Watching it unfold, do you get the impression that the docs testifying for the prosecution are saying what they know will please Woke and have sold out their professional integrity for political correctness?
I saw a short clip of the ER doc. He looks very young and being that he is young he’s more likely to have bought into the narrative of Woke. And more likely to say what will put him in good favor with the Twitter-mob. I don’t know why but the second I saw what he looks like I figured he’s afflicted with Woke and will say whatever the Prosecution wants him to say. This is judging the book by the cover, but it’s what I did.
Did the ER doc come across as a straight-shooter or more as willing to contort himself to bolster the prosecution?
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:52 pm to JDPndahizzy
Is the purpose of this testimony to show gf didn’t die from fentanyl?
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:53 pm to JDPndahizzy
This guy looks just like what you would think a forensic toxicologist would look like!
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:55 pm to JDPndahizzy
quote:
This guy looks just like what you would think a forensic toxicologist would look like!
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:56 pm to Ryan3232
quote:
Id also like to hear more on this as well. He was clearly unconscious for some minutes before EMP’s arrived. If DC suffocated GF to the point of death (killing him), wouldnt he be dead when he got in the ambulance? Im no medical anything so Im on the ignorant side, but Im curious why that isnt being talked about more. If it has been, plz share for me.
That's not how that works.
Say you are drunk and run into a family of 5. 4 have minor injuries, one is taken to the hospital in an ambulance with serious injuries.
At that point you are charged with DWI and 5 counts of negligent (or, in some cases, felony) injury.
Say the one that got transported dies a couple of days later from injuries in the accident.
One of your negligent/felony injury charges is now vehicular homicide.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:57 pm to Aced
quote:
I see you are not capable of making your own opinions and conclusions and just follow the board hivemind
Why repeat what has already been stated? Most people in this thread seem to be able to follow what Nelson is doing without calling it a "disaster".
You're the outlier here. Not me.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:58 pm to Centinel
Nelson about to ask if this analysis includes the presence of other drugs, like for example: methamphetamine.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:59 pm to Centinel
I watched the entire video in the OP again. DC seems less the issue, IMO. The initial officer dropping F bombs seemed to take the situation to a level it shouldn't have.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 2:59 pm to udtiger
quote:What are you basing that on? As a person who policed for a very long time, I can tell you that examples like yours are usually handled in a much different manner.
That's not how that works.
Say you are drunk and run into a family of 5. 4 have minor injuries, one is taken to the hospital in an ambulance with serious injuries.
At that point you are charged with DWI and 5 counts of negligent (or, in some cases, felony) injury.
Say the one that got transported dies a couple of days later from injuries in the accident.
One of your negligent/felony injury charges is now vehicular homicide.
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