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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:46 am to
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9945 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:46 am to
I actually feel bad for Jody.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23011 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:48 am to
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I missed some of that testimony, but did the witness just say he had presented a seminar at a conference titled "Awful but Lawful"?


I missed the title of the conference but he did say that he gave a presentation at a conference about how actions can look bad but still be lawful or per policy.
Posted by TigerCop89
Member since Sep 2015
201 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:48 am to
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I missed some of that testimony, but did the witness just say he had presented a seminar at a conference titled "Awful but Lawful"?


Yep, idea being that use of force looks bad to the public but is totally acceptable.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147210 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:48 am to
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I expect Nelson to strut like RIC Flair after he says, "I have no more questions, wow!"

we already have precedent

Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
567 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:48 am to
My lord, Nelson is GOAT level when it comes to cross examination. Send him to GITMO and he could get anything out of the most fundamental terrorist without laying a finger on anyone.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:51 am to
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idea being that use of force looks bad to the public but is totally acceptable.


I got that part but wasn't sure if the witness said he presented it or just attended it.

WOW. Seems like the prosecution would have done some background work on their expert and then found a different expert or at least tried to inoculate the jury to that in direct.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15915 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:51 am to
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Nelson is GOAT level when it comes to cross


He is so calm and slick the witness has no idea he is actually being led to slaughter.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11779 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:52 am to
Damn, Nelson definitely does his homework.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2564 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:53 am to
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Wait who called the sidebar?


the judge - it was very quick and he was probably asking if now would be a good time for a morning break.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60177 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:53 am to
Added to OP. Thanks
Posted by TigerCop89
Member since Sep 2015
201 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:55 am to
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Seems like the prosecution would have done some background work on their expert and then found a different expert or at least tried to inoculate the jury to that in direct.


Agreed. The bigger note is that this is the first time this "expert" has been paid to testify in court either at state or federal. The fact that the state even hired him to begin with is shocking. I wonder if he was first choice or how many others experts turned them down or didn't provide the desired opinion.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15915 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:56 am to
That was interesting replay of the judge and the prosecution. Seems the judge is pissed that the prosecution has so many attorneys that it could be unfair to the defense.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:58 am to
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I actually feel bad for Jody.
If you saw his testimony yesterday, you knew this was coming just like you knew the sun would rise this morning.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15915 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:00 am to
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wonder if he was first choice or how many others experts turned them down or didn't provide the desired opinion.


I'm starting to wonder if the reason they went out of area for most of the prosecution team is because the local prosecutors looked at the evidence and didn't want their name attached to losing " the case of the century ".
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:00 am to
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The bigger note is that this is the first time this "expert" has been paid to testify in court either at state or federal. The fact that the state even hired him to begin with is shocking. I wonder if he was first choice or how many others experts turned them down or didn't provide the desired opinion.


I just tuned in so I missed all that. Unbelievable.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15073 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:00 am to
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Agreed. The bigger note is that this is the first time this "expert" has been paid to testify in court either at state or federal. The fact that the state even hired him to begin with is shocking. I wonder if he was first choice or how many others experts turned them down or didn't provide the desired opinion.

They definitely had to settle when they found this guy. Probably took a while to find someone willing to say what they wanted him to say. Problem is, they hired a dunce.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15915 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:01 am to
Court TV just said " Nelson has neen masterful in turning the prosecution witnesses into his own".

With the media now praising Nelson and questioning the prosecution I expect the threat rhetoric to start getting louder.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 11:04 am
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23011 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:02 am to
Court TV is talking up how good Nelson is doing, even saying he is doing a "masterful job." Their tune has really changed this week.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:02 am to
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They definitely had to settle when they found this guy. Probably took a while to find someone willing to say what they wanted him to say. Problem is, they hired a dunce.



This will probably be his last time testifying as an expert.
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1401 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:03 am to
I'm pretty close to an expert on english.... what I heard was. I took too many pills. I'm not sure what else it could have been maybe, I did too many drills but since he's unemployed that wouldn't make much sense.... If you have a good grasp of english it's pretty obvious
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