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Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:23 pm to GEAUXmedic
We can all try to interpret the ME’s report but once the ME gets on the stand and if he says that Floyd’s death was consistent with positional asphyxia, does that along with what the Sargent just said damn Chauvin?
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:23 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Not really. It doesn't prove DC killed GF. It'll just sound good in the news tonight to placate the masses.
It creates significantly more doubt for the jury.
Up until now it was looking completely ridiculous.
Still don't think they get anything unanimous besides maybe manslaughter.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:24 pm to GEAUXmedic
Good defense will simply try to avoid making it look like a big deal and move around it pretty quick while mitigating.
He is gonna try to build reasons why he should have left knee and get him to agree.
He is gonna try to build reasons why he should have left knee and get him to agree.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:25 pm to NorthTxLSU
You know, I was on the fence between 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter, but with the testimony of the girlfriend, I’d now acquit Chauven. Doesn’t change that Chauven is a scumfrick who should have never been in law enforcement in the first place, but this is now reasonable doubt as far as I’m concerned. Stay at home on the day the verdict is read.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:25 pm to STLhog
I think the jury has their mind made up from the beginning, and the body cam confirmed what they were thinking. Either way.
I don't think anything anybody says on the stand will be a huge deal.
With the cam videos, it's hard not to have your mind made up just from seeing the videos.
I don't think anything anybody says on the stand will be a huge deal.
With the cam videos, it's hard not to have your mind made up just from seeing the videos.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:25 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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So absent the video, what part of the report lists findings that would lead you to believe that a person had been asphyxiated, especially since the report doesn't use that word.
you could just go back and reread the post you responded to. Ive tried explaining it differently, on the first page, history and exam findings.
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I'm saying that somewhere other than COD there should be evidence of this asphyxiation, no?
there is.
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For instance, if you found a dead body with no signs of trauma and no clear manner or cause of death, are there markers present in the blood that could prove that the person suffered a heart attack?
yes there may be cardiac enzymes you can measure, could have exam findings on autopsy too. (these were not found with floyd)
quote:the history, and trauma patterns. the force used against GF is known to be dangerous due to asphyxiation. the exam and history is consistent with this. it is inconsistent with other causes of death.
So in this case, what evidence is there that the felon asphyxiated? We know he died, but what trace evidence or lab analysis exists to support that (like there would be in the heart attack scenario)?
I feel like youve asked the same questions multiple times.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:25 pm to STLhog
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Still don't think they get anything unanimous besides maybe manslaughter.
I agree. Don’t even think they should get that but they probably will bc they have to pin something on him.
However I can possibly see a mistrial on some sort of technicality
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:26 pm to NorthTxLSU
I think it's worth noting other black people were in the vehicle and left with their lives.
So i do question the, he done it because gf is black.
So i do question the, he done it because gf is black.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:26 pm to RealDawg
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He is gonna try to build reasons why he should have left knee and get him to agree.
Yep, already doing that and doing a pretty good job.
Fellow officer essentially throwing him under the bus is not good for the defense though.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:28 pm to AMS
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the history, and trauma patterns. the force used against GF is known to be dangerous due to asphyxiation.
On the front of the neck, no?
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:28 pm to LaBR4
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I think the jury has their mind made up from the beginning, and the body cam confirmed what they were thinking.
What do you mean? In which direction?
I think most thought the body cam footage probably helped Chavin given how out of control GF was.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:29 pm to STLhog
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Yep, already doing that and doing a pretty good job.
Fellow officer essentially throwing him under the bus is not good for the defense though.
have the fellow officer(s) trying to get DC to remove the knee gotten on yet?
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:30 pm to STLhog
Agree....I think this ex officer on the stand, if he said, whatever about the force, I think the jury will decide for themselves
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:31 pm to AMS
quote:Because you've given the same non-answer multiple times.
the history, and trauma patterns. the force used against GF is known to be dangerous due to asphyxiation. the exam and history is consistent with this. it is inconsistent with other causes of death.
I feel like youve asked the same questions multiple times.
How about a page number? Can you supply a page number on the ME's report that explains how it was asphyxia without it actually saying asphyxia.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:32 pm to LaBR4
If anyone on that jury hates cops they aren’t going to believe what this guy says and will just dismiss his testimony
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:32 pm to dgnx6
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On the front of the neck, no?
?
someone can asphyxiate without anything touching or blocking the neck at all.
prolonged chest wall restriction with a knee on the back in a prone position is known to be dangerous for its asphyxiation risk.
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:34 pm to AMS
And is more prone to occur when someone is under cardiac arrest due to a drug overdose
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:38 pm to tgrbaitn08
So this guy didn’t do a “force” report????
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:38 pm to tiger91
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So this guy didn’t do a “force” report????
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