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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by dragonNRG45
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2019
725 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Do the jurors get notebooks in this jurisdiction?

Yes. Reports are that they have been taking notes
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:55 pm to
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And as we have stated before, typically 7 is fatal, but it's been seen as low as 3 in fatalities.


How did they determine that “typically 7 is fatal?”
Posted by hnds2th
Member since May 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:56 pm to
Just realized I’m seeing a repeat of this morning’s session.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Yes, you can compress the airway or block the airway, but in this situation the blood vessels would have been constricted well before the amount of force necessary to constrict the airway.

Let me clarify: “asphyxial deaths of this type...”
Crawfish much? I read your stupid post, and interpreted it correctly.
Posted by dragonNRG45
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2019
725 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:57 pm to
typically they have been starting around 1:15pm-1:30pm after lunch. i didnt hear what the judge said this time.
Posted by Fortnight2Flat
Member since Mar 2021
223 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:58 pm to
Am chance at a cliffs?
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Crawfish much? I read your stupid post, and interpreted it correctly.


I didn’t crawfish at all. If Chauvin’s leg caused asphyxia, the mechanism would be by obstruction of blood flow rather than obstruction of the airway.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
15418 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:00 pm to
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I didn’t crawfish at all. If Chauvin’s leg caused asphyxia, the mechanism would be by obstruction of blood flow rather than obstruction of the airway.


I don't know shite but wouldn't that type of damage show up in the medical examiner's report?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31531 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:01 pm to
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And as we have stated before, typically 7 is fatal, but it's been seen as low as 3 in fatalities.



For someone that’s opiate naive. With tolerance I think that amount increases. The meth and heart conditions is what killed him imo
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47810 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:02 pm to
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I watched for the first time for about an hour before the lunch recess. I don't have any idea how the case is going from an evidentiary standpoint, but the prosecutor's affect is flat. She's almost monotone and she makes you want to drag words from her mouth to move things along. If I were sitting all day long watching her, my eyes would grow heavy and my head would bobble.

Do the jurors get notebooks in this jurisdiction? If so, I'd be doodling to stay awake.


well the big problem is that they did not release the full video for months where you can see the dude acting belligerent and like a typical drughead a-hole.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:02 pm to
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The meth and heart conditions is what killed him imo


Which I mentioned in the second part of my post.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:04 pm to
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I don't know shite but wouldn't that type of damage show up in the medical examiner's report?


You could have hemorrhage of the neck musculature and also petechiae in the eyes. I’m sure the defense will go after the medical examiner when he’s on the stand. However, you can have asphyxial deaths without any autopsy findings. Without the video recordings, I don’t see how the ME would have been able to justify including neck compression on the DC.

It’ll be interesting testimony for sure.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:07 pm to
People who really think like this have no place in society.

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@very_actually
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Some factors in George Floyd’s totally preventable death-
1. George Floyd was black
2. Derek Chauvin is white
3. Witnesses and those who attempted to intervene were women, children, and black men
4. Off duty EMT who pleaded to intervene was female
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15353 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:15 pm to
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You could have hemorrhage of the neck musculature and also petechiae in the eyes. I’m sure the defense will go after the medical examiner when he’s on the stand.


Autopsy report by the Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner, Andrew Baker:
No life-threatening injuries identified --
A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae
B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures
C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries
D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries
E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma"
(In short: no bloodshot eyes and no trauma to any part of Floyd's neck).
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:15 pm to
Why should they give the drug dealer immunity to testify? Eff that, arrest him for his outstanding warrants and potential homicide from the drug overdose he caused.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15353 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:16 pm to
Once Chauvin is found innocent they will have to go after the drug dealer for murder
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:16 pm to
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People who really think like this have no place in society.


They are this country's future.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:16 pm to
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I didn’t crawfish at all. If Chauvin’s leg caused asphyxia, the mechanism would be by obstruction of blood flow rather than obstruction of the airway.
Are you a medical professional? You sound like someone that might play one on TV. What you are describing is brain ischemia. Asphyxia is literally choking to death, stopping airflow!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46205 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:18 pm to
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Asphyxia is literally choking to death, stopping airflow!


Words don't have meaning anymore. If he feels asphyxia is what he says it is, well then it is.

Who are you to tell him what His Truth is, bigot?
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66922 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:19 pm to
this one is probably my favorite:

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President Kamala’s Hand (STILL)
@DearDean22
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2h
The defense is given permission to expose and interrogate all aspects of Mr. Floyd’s life. The judge disallowed the opportunity to interrogate all aspects of the murder’s life. You’re witnessing the systemic barrier to justice for Black people. It’s explained away in minutiae of
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