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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:46 pm to AMS
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:46 pm to AMS
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or I just dont care to give real info out online forums
I’m not trying to be combative, you’re just making some bold statements here, and I’m trying to determine what your level of expertise is. You don’t have to give out any identifying information, a pic of your medical license with a sticky notes with your screen name covering the personal info would do it. Otherwise we can all assume you’re no better qualified to make these assessments than anyone else with access to google and Wikipedia.
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:47 pm to Tbonepatron
quote:But, are you well versed in acetylsalicylic acid?
I too have read the labels on ibuprofen and acetaminophen.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:47 pm to AMS
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or I just dont care to give real info out online forums. Assume what you want about me, but it doesn't change any of the facts.
Besides If the knowing the credentials are so important just forget about me and argue with experts the 3 expert medical examiners who all reported the same thing I am saying, the death was an asphixiation homicide.
Or....
You're lying you're arse off and hope people don't realize the technical definition of homicide.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:48 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I will ask you again, what do you make of one of the same expert medical examiners saying, on the record, that Floyd had a likely lethal amount of Fentanyl in his system and that if he had been found anywhere else, such as at home, his death would have likely been ruled an overdose?
He said that on the record, and that will eventually be a problem for the prosecution.
because you use context and other facts. If he's found home alone with drugs in his system and no other signs that point to a cause of death yes, you probably rule it an OD... because there is no other potential explanation.
However Floyd was was being asphyxiated for a prolonged time. It's kinda like if you were pushed off the empire state building and they found fentanyl in your system so you died of an OD.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:50 pm to AMS
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It's kinda like if you were pushed off the empire state building and they found fentanyl in your system so you died of an OD.
So people routinely fall off of the Empire State Building and survive?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:51 pm to AMS
The only reason the city settled with George’s family before this trial is because they knew the evidence sucked.
They knew a civil jury wouldn’t award that kind of change for a suicide
The judicial system is fricked
They knew a civil jury wouldn’t award that kind of change for a suicide
The judicial system is fricked
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:51 pm to AMS
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However Floyd was was being asphyxiated for a prolonged time
But he wasn't. Autopsy shows no asphyxiation.
Keep pulling shite out of your arse to prove your emotions right though. If you are in fact a doctor, I hope it's nowhere near me.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:52 pm to arseinclarse
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The only reason the city settled with George’s family before this trial is because they knew the evidence sucked.
And cause they know their protocols will save Chauvin's arse.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:53 pm to AMS
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AMS
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:54 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:Weird how the pro-conviction crowd skips over that part of the medical examiners report, huh?
But he wasn't. Autopsy shows no asphyxiation.
Keep pulling shite out of your arse to prove your emotions right though. If you are in fact a doctor, I hope it's nowhere near me.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:54 pm to Huey Lewis
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11 ng/ml is, in fact, eyebrow raising high. Hell, given the potency and potential lethality ANY amount of recreational fentanyl use is cause for alarm.
The clerk said Floyd came in high
now when the police arrived...there is photo on the internet that shows Floyd with a white pill in his mouth
some believe he swallowed his drugs for fear of being caught with them...
so if he was already high, and then swallowed Fentanyl, would that cause a possible hallucinations or panic attack or heart failure within the next hour?
and how much of that dosage would show up in his autopsy?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:56 pm to IAmNERD
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Lol you haven't even heard the defense witnesses and this is your conclusion. Ok, you just pegged yourself as being not credible from here on out.
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reasonable doubt"?
Reasonable doubt is a poor choice. That’s my point. It’s used in murder where a defendant not only says not guilty but he wasn’t even fricking there. Or was there and someone else did it.
None of this is the case with Chauvin. Everything he did is documented. The debate is whether it’s murder. Convince a jury he ODd he’s not guilty. Convince a jury he knelt on his arteries, you get guilty.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:57 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Autopsy shows no asphyxiation.
There are no autopsy signs of asphyxia - hence the entire saga of SIDS/SUID type cases where infants accidentally asphyxiate in their beds. There are potential signs for specific types of asphyxia, such as manual strangulation with muscular hemorrhage, fractured hyoid bone, and petechiae. These findings are not always present however, and these deaths can have completely negative autopsies. A common example is death from a sleeper hold.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:57 pm to CptRusty
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I’m not trying to be combative, you’re just making some bold statements here, and I’m trying to determine what your level of expertise is. You don’t have to give out any identifying information, a pic of your medical license with a sticky notes with your screen name covering the personal info would do it. Otherwise we can all assume you’re no better qualified to make these assessments than anyone else with access to google and Wikipedia.
I stated I was trained in medicine. sorry if it was not clear to mean physician.
Plus my claims are not bold other than 'he would have gotten off the table and walked out of surgery' claim. Aside from that with I share the consensus of all 3 medical examiners who ran tests and examined the body.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 7:58 pm to TimeOutdoors
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if I wanted to watch 30-45 mins of tv a night to follow this trial what show do you recommend I record?
None. Seriously.
Maybe Al Jazeera, if they're covering it.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:03 pm to Yellerhammer5
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There are no autopsy signs of asphyxia - hence the entire saga of SIDS/SUID type cases where infants accidentally asphyxiate in their beds. There are potential signs for specific types of asphyxia, such as manual strangulation with muscular hemorrhage, fractured hyoid bone, and petechiae. These findings are not always present however, and these deaths can have completely negative autopsies. A common example is death from a sleeper hold.
lmao you are wasting your breath. I already explained to geauxmedic and others yesterday that the signs being absent are not uncommon. those folks made up their mind medical examiners and facts be damned!
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:03 pm to AMS
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well none of his drug concentrations were eyebrow raising high
Maybe not on their own, but I'm certain you know the term potentiate. With your medicine training and all.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:05 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Keep pulling shite out of your arse to prove your emotions right though. If you are in fact a doctor, I hope it's nowhere near me.
lmao 'my doctor understands things so much better than I do, I think its magic and I'm scared!'
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:05 pm to AMS
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I stated I was trained in medicine. sorry if it was not clear to mean physician.
But does this really qualify you to completely rule out an overdose based on the toxicology report?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:07 pm to IAmNERD
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Maybe not on their own, but I'm certain you know the term potentiate. With your medicine training and all.
yea and even considering that, his blood levels were not eyebrow raising. Maybe the medical examiner's janitor would raise their eyebrows idk.
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