re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

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LSU alum wannabe

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just so everyone knows this guy is trolling, don’t feed the trolls and they go away

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His knee was not on his neck, videos from today showed that..center of back

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... you realize a man can still asphyxiate to death like that. If your chest can't expand, you can't breathe regardless of how comfortable your neck may be. Your argument might be relevant if Floyds lungs were in his neck.

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you realize a man can still asphyxiate to death like that. If your chest can't expand, you can't breathe

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can't breathe

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Can you talk and move for 7 minutes if you can't breathe doc? Just curious, because the guy that couldn't breathe standing up, in the cop car and who was speed balling did it with a knee on his back..your either a troll or ill-informed

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His knee was on his neck for a well documented amount of time. This is also fact. Had he not, none of us would be here.

You keep bringing up emotion. Hell I will bite. It appears Chauvin was enjoying kneeling on this dude. Again, maybe there was history. Maybe Floyd spit in his face maybe they had dealings before. But it appeared Chauvin was grinding his knee into his neck at certain points. Totally emotional point. There it is.

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I think it's entirely possible Chauvin was smirking at the crowd trying to agg them on, but that's as far as I would go with it. If that's what he was doing, he sure as hell wasn't expecting Floyd to die with that many people and cameras pointing in his face. He would of been thinking "these people think I'm trying to smoother this guy and I only have 10 pounds of pressure on him.

I don't think he displayed any emotion the whole time honestly. He had in his mind the best thing to do was leave Floyd situated the way he was until the paramedics showed up. If you watch one of the first two officers body cams, and all the body cam footage, Chauvin is approaching the scene slowly, observing what's going on. I got the impression the entire time from all the body cam footage, it was something he probably didn't want to get involved with at all, but as the senior officer there, he had too. Also, when they pulled Floyd out of the car at his request, Chauvin didn't go down on him fast or aggressively as if he wanted to punish him, I think Tao's body cam showed that.

I also think the push downs of the knee you're referring to, could be reflective of how hyper and out of control Floyd was just minutes before. Floyd had the strength to raise his neck, head , shoulders and chest and breath. Once he got the breath Chauvin may have been making a point he wasn't getting back up. I don't think Chauvin anticipated him overdosing or dying on the spot, when he was so strong and combative just minutes prior.

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Overdose deaths depend on toxicology findings as well as correlation with information from the scene (especially due to confounding issues with tox testing such as postmortem redistribution and tolerance). The footage of Floyd prior to death will be central to the case much more so than the particular numerical value detected in blood

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This is a good thing to keep in mind.

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Can you talk and move for 7 minutes if you can't breathe doc? Just curious, because the guy that couldn't breathe standing up, in the cop car and who was speed balling did it with a knee on his back..your either a troll or ill-informed

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In a manner of speaking, yes. Which is to say you can be talking and moving for 7 minutes while your oxygen saturation is dropping to fatal levels.

So if you lay face down and your friend puts his knee on your neck, can you talk? I truly don't know .. don't want to let my husband try it on me BUT I'm thinking that you can't??? This dude was LOUD.

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Not what I asked. I want to know what makes you so confident that with all of the drugs in his system, he would have been otherwise just fine had it not been for Chauvin kneeling on him.

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well none of his drug concentrations were eyebrow raising high.
with weed users, tolerance of opioids is higher, but meh in this context.
meth - admittedly not the best combination, but his blood levels were not insane high, roughly what youd expect for a recreational user.
other than that its caffiene and metabolites of the above.
I mean its clear he wasn't sober and it couldn't have helped his situation but 3/3 medical examiners agreed it was an asphyxiation related homicide, not overdose.

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You seem pretty confident of that fact, I’m just asking upon what basis are you qualified to make that assessment? I’d expect something pretty convincing, like you being a practicing anesthesiologist.

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my medical knowledge+training, as well as 3/3 expert medical examiners being in agreement to the asphyxiation homicide death affords me that confidence. Plus video evidence of the proning and prolonged compression of chest wall/neck is apparent Chauvin played the dominant role in the death.

folks here get all emotional believing random shite about floyds drug levels while not even knowing there is a difference in dose and blood concentration and ng vs mg. weird you aren't grilling those posters on why they are so confident it was OD and only possibly an OD.

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His fentanyl level was at the bottom of the range for anesthesia usage.

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I honestly don't know, so I'm asking here: could this be due to him having ingested fentanyl very close to his death?

When his heart stops beating, does the rest of the body continue to process the drug? What then of the other drugs in his system? Do they potentiate the effects of one another while he was still alive?

My point being that anyone claiming his death was due to a single drug or a knee at the base of his neck are probably both wrong.

But I'm willing to hear anything to disprove one or the other. (As should anyone on this jury with a few working brain cells)

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my medical knowledge+training

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Which is?