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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 2/10/23 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 3:55 pm to
We know and they knew it was almost 3AM, freezing cold, she was drunk, and she was lost.

And any of the four could've called an Uber or 911. Or were all four of their cellular devices dead?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 3:56 pm to
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How was it that she was so out of mind she was standing in front of an oncoming vehicle?


Its been said she was trying flag down a car. Not sure if true. Even sober people have been killed doing that...not judging speed and distance and thats it.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Its been said she was trying flag down a car. 


Said by who?

What you're suggesting is incredulous.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9455 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:01 pm to
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We know and they knew it was almost 3AM, freezing cold, she was drunk, and she was lost.


Im not arguing they could not have possibly handled the situation better but they have not been charged in any with her death, not yet anyway.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Im not arguing they could not have possibly handled the situation better


Wonder why they didn't? Hmmm . . .
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Said by who?

What you're suggesting is incredulous.


It was said in this thread but I'll scratch that comment as I could not find it anywhere where the uber driver said that. Not sure why that would be incredulous. Its definitely possible she wasn't thinking straight so is it more incredulous that she was trying to flag a car down vs just wandering in the middle of the road

Posted by CincoTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Im not arguing they could not have possibly handled the situation better but they have not been charged in any with her death, not yet anyway.


I think that they contributed to her death by leaving her alone in the dark in her condition, but I have no idea if they can be charged. But we sort of got off track here. You asked if the two guys in the front seat should be charged for the rape, and I think they are charged with being priciples. My point was if they were that indifferent about where and what condition she was dropped off in, they were likely that indifferent about the alleged rape.

Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9455 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:17 pm to
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Wonder why they didn't? Hmmm . . .


Because they feared being in trouble for raping her? Leaving her at Jack in the Box down the street would not have made a difference in that situation. I think at that point they probably did not realize how much trouble they could possibly be in...maybe the driver did IDK.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 4:19 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9455 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 4:21 pm to
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point was if they were that indifferent about where and what condition she was dropped off in, they were likely that indifferent about the alleged rape.


Yea possibly...I can see where you are coming from on that point
Posted by TigerFred
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:17 pm to
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It was said in this thread


A lot has been said in the thread where people attributing something to a nonexistent source. Much of it came from one poster.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:21 pm to
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A lot has been said in the thread where people attributing something to a nonexistent source. Much of it came from one poster.


Once people start quoting Hodsontiger, the thread has fallen off the rails.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:22 pm to
I hope you or someone put her in timeout.
Posted by clip11
Member since Feb 2023
205 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:28 pm to
That was a special case because of all the politics behind it. Especially since it was an election year, the BLM movement at the time etc. This case is more of a regional case and yeah there's racial undertones, it's not the same as the Rittenhouse case.
Posted by clip11
Member since Feb 2023
205 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:34 pm to
And since they were recording everything, they could have recorded themselves telling her "you're obviously drunk and we're not going to let you out on the side of a dark road. We're going to drop you off at a police station instead"

So if they were concerned about kidnapping (which I highly doubt they gave the slightest thought to) then that would go a long way in absolving them of kidnapping charges.

No DA would charge them and no jury would convict them because they didn't leave an intoxicated girl on the side of the road and instead drove her to a police station or somewhere safe. Even if she did immediately want out of the car.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:35 pm to
You rang?



It is unknown why Brooks was standing in the middle of the road when she was hit by a vehicle. 

She was taken to a hospital in critical condition.

Deputies said they do not believe or suspect impairment from the driver.

LINK


Why was she in the road? Would have to read the statement of the Uber driver as to what he saw. This article just said she was in the middle of the roadway.

The story below says:

quote:

Brooks, 19, was allegedly raped in a car before the fatal accident, and her suspected attackers let her out on Burbank Drive (Louisiana Highway 42), a four-lane highway that's separated by a grassy median.


But the guys, I thought, had said the Pelican Lakes subdivision:

LINK



It may have been she Madison was so intoxicated she just wandered into the roadway not being able to see clearly.







Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2894 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:39 pm to
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You rang?


Yes.

To declare that the only confirmed fact of this case is that you are a shite maker upper.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:40 pm to
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No DA would charge them and no jury would convict them because they didn't leave an intoxicated girl on the side of the road and instead drove her to a police station or somewhere safe. Even if she did immediately want out of the car.




Had they done that prior to the rape, yes.

After the rapes, she was a walking rape kit. All of the evidence was there and there are cameras near any police station - lots of them.

The lawyers for the perps said they'd been drinking ("They were at a bar a few hours so..."), so another reason not to roll up at the police station.

It's also a reason not to go to the well-lit gas stations they passed up on the way to the drop off location. More cameras and more witnesses.

Some pretty good detective work went into just tracking them down. They had to go through all the footage from Reggie's (likely after locating it due to phone location history) and figure out who these guys were. You saw the footage outside Reggie's. Not exactly clear and they were some random dudes from Walker. Not locals or LSU students.

How'd police figure out who the four guys were?


Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:42 pm to
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How'd police figure out who the four guys were?


Probably paid with a debit card or apple pay.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 6:46 pm to
What was Madison doing in traffic at 3 a.m.?

We don't have the Uber driver's statement.

I think she was flagging down help but was struck instead. How is my making assumptions anything else different than 90% of the non-media non-affidavit statements in this thread?

But you guys are raising a good point:

WHERE WAS MADISON DROPPED OFF?

Check this out:
quote:


Kerry Miller, an attorney representing Brooks’ family, slammed the comment telling Fox News Digital: “I was blown away by that comment. I mean their clients gave sworn statements that they raped a young girl who was intoxicated.

“What does he mean by that? That had she not been run over by a car seconds after being dropped off in the middle of the road that they wouldn’t have come forward and admitted their guilt? … Clearly a crime was committed. And I think that will be proven in court.”


Source:

LINK


Question for Judge:

IF what the family attorney said is true, is that manslaughter?

Or negligent homicide?


This says "seconds" and we know Madison was .319...


Did the Uber driver have a dash cam? Wonder if the perps are seen driving from the scene on the cam?




Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9455 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:19 pm to
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Some pretty good detective work went into just tracking them down.


I thought the driver turned himself in before the police had suspects...is that incorrect?
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