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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 2/10/23 at 12:59 pm to ThuperThumpin
Posted on 2/10/23 at 12:59 pm to ThuperThumpin
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She did, where did you see that?
It's all in the affidavit. It does not say she consented five times though. It only says she consented after being asked 5 times by the first accused, and numerous times by the second accused. It never actually says if consent was given every time, but it's implied it was not given every time, especially since they were arrested for it.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 1:05 pm
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Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:00 pm to Big Gorilla
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am in agreement with you. If they recorded it, it was consensual. Why would you record a felony rape?
Why would someone commit felony rape?
Having the video to relive the memory /feelings of the moment if you commit felony rape... You aren't thinking you are going to jail in the first place
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:02 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Also, seems like a bit of 'concern trolling' going on - "I'm worried they won't be convicted because..."
Because there isn't anything seen that would 100% convict these animals. I hate it, but to say they are going to do real jail time is not honest. I hope they do, but DNA alone doesn't convict them when there is no witness.
Now, if there is a video the dudes are toast.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:03 pm to Big Gorilla
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felony rape
I think all rape is a felony.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:05 pm to jdd48
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It's all in the affidavit. It does not say she consented five times though. It only says she consented after being asked 5 times by the first accused, and numerous times by the second accused.
I’m not sure the affidavit is clear enough to draw that conclusion.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:07 pm to JudgeHolden
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I’m not sure the affidavit is clear enough to draw that conclusion.
If it's already confusing before they are actually in front of anyone, they are probably going to go free. Unless:
1. Someone confesses
2. There is video
Time for some old dad justice.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:08 pm to JudgeHolden
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I’m not sure the affidavit is clear enough to draw that conclusion.
Given your experience, are affidavits usually written in such unclear language, or is this one just especially unclear? One would think these things would be very specific and not leave any room for interpretation.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:12 pm to jdd48
One of the idiots made a statement to police that when asked a question in the car, he said she was hunched over and did not answer.
Video evidence of her falling over in the bar.
The BAC test of .319
She was in and out of consciousness and consistent with studies of a persons condition of a .319 BAC.
Proof without a shadow of a doubt she was in no state of mind to consent.
Not guilt will only be the verdict of a bias jury.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:16 pm to inspectweld
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The BAC test of .319
She was in and out of consciousness and consistent with studies of a persons condition of a .319 BAC.
Proof without a shadow of a doubt she was in no state of mind to consent.
Not guilt will only be the verdict of a bias jury.
I don't think it's that clear cut. Are BAC levels measured at hospitals even admissible when there is no witness? Really need one of these monsters to crack.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:17 pm to inspectweld
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bias jury
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:19 pm to jdd48
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It never actually says if consent was given every time,
Thats not what I thought you meant. Thanks for clarifying. Ive read through the affidavit and other than them admitting she slumped over and was unresponsive for a question, Washington saying she was " drunk, like Drunk drunk" and Carver saying he guesses she was too drunk to consent..is there anything else they admitted that convinces you?
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:25 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Ive read through the affidavit and other than them admitting she slumped over and was unresponsive for a question, Washington saying she was " drunk, like Drunk drunk" and Carver saying he guesses she was too drunk to consent..is there anything else they admitted that convinces you?
I am not a legal expert, but the way that I interpret the law, those statements coupled the reported circumstances (very high BAC, being half comatose & unresponsive at times, Washington saying she had little balance, opening random car doors, types of injuries reported, etc) are enough for me. Even if she eventually did say yes after being asked numerous times, the accused pretty much admit knowing that she was not in her own right mind.
That being said, as mentioned, there may be trump cards to be played from both sides in the evidence that could change the case completely.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:29 pm to inspectweld
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Proof without a shadow of a doubt
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ot guilt will only be the verdict of a bias jury.
I dont consider myself biased at all other than wanting the prosecution to present proof beyond a reasonable doubt and I'm not there yet. The defense has hardly revealed anything at this point. Perhaps the bias goes both ways.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:32 pm to SuperOcean
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Why would someone commit felony rape?
Because the thug pieces of shite are sociopaths they show no remorse and they think they won’t be caught by LE. Especially Washington, since this is not his first rape he’s committed. It’s all learned behavior at home, these thug pieces of shite witnessed whatever man of the month came in and beat the shite out of their mom or grandma, whoever “raised” them as tolerable behavior. They have zero regard for females, as most rapist do.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:40 pm to jdd48
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Given your experience, are affidavits usually written in such unclear language, or is this one just especially unclear? One would think these things would be very specific and not leave any room for interpretation.
My experience is that if there is room for two interpretations of something in a statement, you get ready for both of them.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:43 pm to JudgeHolden
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two interpretations of something in a statement, you get ready for both of them.
And the whole problem with this case. Hasn't even started yet and there are issues.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:50 pm to Big Gorilla
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And the whole problem with this case. Hasn't even started yet and there are issues.
This is always true. Facts evolve as the case does. The prosecution knows more than they are saying. Witnesses change their stories. New facts emerge.
This is why most cases settle/plead.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:51 pm to JudgeHolden
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This is why most cases settle/plead.
It horrible, but I don't think (without a confession) these animals will do any real time in prison.
Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:53 pm to Big Gorilla
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Why would you record a felony rape?
Bro.Posted on 2/10/23 at 1:54 pm to Big Gorilla
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It horrible, but I don't think (without a confession) these animals will do any real time in prison.
I think they will. Let the process work.
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