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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:00 pm to t00f
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doing 4 autopsies ..
Oh, I was super in to the X-Files and wanted to be a forensic pathologist. At 16, I was invited to EKL (Earl K. Long) because I was a loser homeschooled gymnast, who had free time on her hands.
It was a great two-day experience, a drowning in the MS, gunshot to the head, "natural causes" (alcohol/drugs in an older male) and knife/gunshot victim. I got to LSU and realized as much as I don't like math, science wasn't my thing. Sorry for the derail.This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:06 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Nak said it in that video. We knew she used a fake but in the video he says she used the LA Wallet app.
Hadn't seen this anywhere, that seems awfully hard to fake. Can't imagine door guys would be cool with just a screenshot , but it is Reggie's after all
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:07 pm to liz18lsu
Wait… so because you saw 4 autopsies as a teenager 40 years ago, that gives you some moral high ground over talking about the forensics of this case? Really?
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:11 pm to ell_13
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Nak said it in that video. We knew she used a fake but in the video he says she used the LA Wallet app.
That's right.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:13 pm to ell_13
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the forensics of this case
i mean, you googled info on BAC that you obviously didn't even understand and posted it here as if it bolstered your own argument
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:17 pm to pussywillows
Just because WaWa copied half of the abstract and left out the part that listed the exceptions doesn’t mean what I posted didn’t support what every single defense lawyer tries to argue when BAC comes into play. The poster who came in and explained the whole process was awesome.
Not to mention that I came in with a question about trauma admitting to my ignorance on it and he basically insulted me for merely asking.
Not to mention that I came in with a question about trauma admitting to my ignorance on it and he basically insulted me for merely asking.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:23 pm to ell_13
Problem is what Wawa left off actually were things that would make the bac read lower than it really is, which would be the opposite of what defense lawyer would argue
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:27 pm to lctiger
We discussed that. The defense lawyer doesn’t care if it would trend to up or down. All he or she needs is for it to be unreliable and wrong. If you can’t trust it, a defense expert will tear it apart. The whole process will be scrutinized in trial and any misstep or possible variable will be put front and center. I simply asked if trauma could be one of those variables. In rare instances where the stomach is damaged, it can. In rare instances where other body fluids mix with the blood stream, it can.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:35 pm to ell_13
Back for a second.
We had a long discussion on this the other night. Some (seemingly) knowledgeable people said trauma would not affect much.
They also suggested there was probably a later test because she was an organ donor.
Recess over . . .
We had a long discussion on this the other night. Some (seemingly) knowledgeable people said trauma would not affect much.
They also suggested there was probably a later test because she was an organ donor.
Recess over . . .
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:44 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:Yep. That was the lab tech guy who said our blood tests could single out the different types of alcohol and he said since she’s an organ donor, they would run a full tox screen before they released the organs.
We had a long discussion on this the other night. Some (seemingly) knowledgeable people said trauma would not affect much. They also suggested there was probably a later test because she was an organ donor.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:47 pm to Beef Tips
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On the map someone posted earlier of her being struck on the opposite side of Burbank from Pelican Lakes and headed towards campus.
My theory on crash-
She was dropped off inside Pelican Lakes, couldn't find where she was going, and without a phone, attempted to walk back to her sorority house on campus.
While she was walking back towards campus, tried to flag down the driver who struck her. Being in her intoxicated state, made a catastrophic mistake by standing in the road when she saw lights coming.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:49 pm to ell_13
Assuming that the Parish District Attorney's office doesn't add additional charges (i.e., anything unrelated to the rape), how contested are the pre-trial evidentiary hearings/ motion in limine hearings going to be?
This isn't my practice area, so I'm uncertain how the trial judge avoids creating an appealable issue.
Also, how much wiggle room will the attorneys have during voir dire vis a vis the motion in limine? Seems like one would have to mention Madi's death and the circumstances of her leaving the car in order to "de-select" the potential jurors.
This isn't my practice area, so I'm uncertain how the trial judge avoids creating an appealable issue.
Also, how much wiggle room will the attorneys have during voir dire vis a vis the motion in limine? Seems like one would have to mention Madi's death and the circumstances of her leaving the car in order to "de-select" the potential jurors.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:55 pm to 9rocket
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One poster said earlier she was likely getting agitated and therefore just wanted to get out of the car.
It's pretty obvious the guys were POS otherwise you at least take her ta a gas station or try to find a place to not leave her alone...makes me think they knew they raped her and/or she wanted out no matter where she was bc she was raped
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:59 pm to Aspercel
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Like you going into such detail so many times about ________
The report did not say that. I believe it said injuries.
Injuries related to assault are extremely relevant to consent. But there is no reason to expand on what the affidavit says or to be unnecessarily graphic about what it might mean.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:03 pm to Aspercel
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hope her parents don’t see any of this
Me too. Way too many shitheads with hot takes. No one cares that they have kids in the school with the perp, or that you're a lawyer, or cop.
“Know all the theories, master all the techniques, but as you touch a human soul be just another human soul.” Jung.
This is why women don't always report sexual assaults.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Because of a TD thread where nearly everyone has said they’re guilty?
This is why women don't always report sexual assaults.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:07 pm to ell_13
quote:
Because of a TD thread where nearly everyone has said they’re guilty?
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:08 pm to SHPMustang
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Also, how much wiggle room will the attorneys have during voir dire vis a vis the motion in limine? Seems like one would have to mention Madi's death and the circumstances of her leaving the car in order to "de-select" the potential jurors.
Not really tracking with you here, but let me try . . .
A motion in limine is a pretrial motion to exclude certain evidence. If granted, none of the attorneys can refer to the excluded evidence in voir dire or otherwise. Those will be filed here, and they will be hotly contested. Among other things, the prosecution is going to file a rape shield motion in limine for sure. They will also file one saying that how she was dressed is utterly irrelevant to consent (article 412.1).
Voir dire is the process of questioning the potential jurors, called the "venire," in order to exercise challenges.
Lawyers will often try to sell their case during voir dire. Jurors know it. I'm not sure how much of an effect it has. I think you can flip the script on your opponent as trying to hard in voir dire. Then you become the lawyer they trust. Also, selling the case too hard in voir dire makes it harder to ferret out biases that are not obvious. Again, this is just me. Everybody has to do themselves.
As for the fact of death and the circumstances of her leaving the car. It is all relevant to her condition and to consent. It will come into evidence.
Hope that gets at what you were looking for.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:13 pm to ell_13
quote:
Because of a TD thread where nearly everyone has said they’re guilty?
Something is terribly wrong with you.
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