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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:38 pm to inspectweld
Yep. Longer video is clear. Leading her to her doom.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:38 pm to ell_13
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When he blood was drawn, the medical staff likely didn’t think they were dealing with a criminal investigation.
I call BS. Im sure the lab/er knew she was hit by a vehicle. They didn't know anything about the driver's culpability at the time and if his potential defense would be this girl's BAC level.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:39 pm to ell_13
Even if they did use an alcohol swab, gas chromatography/mass spectrometry can distinguish isopropanol from ethanol.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:39 pm to GRIZZ
You're right. I am typing too fast lol
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:39 pm to Beef Tips
quote:That’s a fair counterpoint to what Judge said.
They didn't know anything about the driver's culpability at the time
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:40 pm to ell_13
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You are delusional. I want them in jail. Why does that mean I can’t discuss what the defense is likely to do?
The defense isn’t likely to cite scientific literature that says BAC is very accurate even in cases of trauma.
You were furiously googling trying to find any way to dispute the BAC of a serial rapist just to win an argument.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:40 pm to FatBaldandGray
quote:Now this is interesting. Didn’t read anything about that.
gas chromatography/mass spectrometry can distinguish isopropanol from ethanol.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:42 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:No I was googling to see if there had been any studies about trauma and BAC because I had the question. The fact that it relates to this case was just the trigger. But you really want to vilify me for some reason. It’s kinda obsessive at this point. It’s in your every post.
You were furiously googling trying to find any way to dispute the BAC of a serial rapist just to win an argument.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:44 pm to Beef Tips
I would guess they are meticulous with anyone coming into the hospital in her condition. Surely they knew she was hit by a car, but if they didn’t they could have assumed she was in a car accident - they would have wanted to know BAC if she was the driver. They are likely meticulous with getting the BAC of every trauma patient
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:45 pm to ell_13
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That’s a fair counterpoint to what Judge said.
It is.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:45 pm to berrycajun
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I would guess they are meticulous with anyone coming into the hospital in her condition. Surely they knew she was hit by a car, but if they didn’t they could have assumed she was in a car accident - they would have wanted to know BAC if she was the driver. They are likely meticulous with getting the BAC of every trauma patient
You made my point better than I could.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:46 pm to hmmmokay
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This would NOT make a single difference in how the blood was drawn. In traumas we never know the entire story of anything until after we have initially stabilized a patient. That is why staff treats EVERYTHING they do like it is a criminal investigation.
This. Probably the most important part of a visit to the ER, especially in cases where triage is literally a matter of life and death, is the insistence by Administration and Medical Staff that blood draws are timely and most of all, accurate.
Even lowly phlebotomists are drilled and trained extensively to do it right.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:47 pm to ell_13
Our Lab saves blood from our initial draws so we can add test later if we want to. I would expect that they can repeat the test if needed to verify the results.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:48 pm to berrycajun
quote:The blood draw is typically for multiple labs. It’s where they got the THC number as well. I’m sure they are meticulous and do they best they can. It’s the defense that will go after every detail from the method, to the storage, to even the time of night and questioning how alert the staff was. But like hmmm said, it’ll all be scrutinized and either allowed or not. We may never know. I’m of the opinion that carver gets a deal and the other 3 plead because of what he can say about that night.
They are likely meticulous with getting the BAC of every trauma patient
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:48 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Would the jury be informed if such a deal took place to factor in the credibility of the person as a witness?
Yes. On cross.
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Is the blood 'stored'? The science folks here could answer this. Meaning, is it kept so that it could be re-tested by another lab? Just to verify the BAC was correctly calculated.
That’s a very good question.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:48 pm to lctiger
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Our Lab saves blood from our initial draws so we can add test later if we want to. I would expect that they can repeat the test if needed to verify the results.
Would the issue of fermentation come into play?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:50 pm to Beef Tips
No
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:51 pm to Beef Tips
There have been a lot of people getting run over in Baton Rouge the last few weeks, As well as a lot of car accidents on i-10 causing shut downs. ( I get alerts from the WAFB app.)
BR hospitals are probably pretty good at dealing with car accident protocol
BR hospitals are probably pretty good at dealing with car accident protocol
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:51 pm to ell_13
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The blood draw is typically for multiple labs. It’s where they got the THC number as well. I’m sure they are meticulous and do they best they can. It’s the defense that will go after every detail from the method, to the storage, to even the time of night and questioning how alert the staff was.
Undoubtedly.
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But like hmmm said, it’ll all be scrutinized and either allowed or not.
I doubt it will be excluded. But its accuracy will be questioned by the defense through cross and their own expert.
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