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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:55 pm to
Just makes you look dumb, but whatever.
Posted by inspectweld
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:56 pm to
If Washington is tried and convicted in LP before the EBRP court trials, would that fact be submissible in the EBRP court trial for all 4 of the idiots?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:56 pm to
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How much alcohol do you think can enter the tip of a hypodermic needle? The inner diameter of an 18 gauge needle is 0.033 inches. This whole conversation is asinine
No. Its what plenty of defense lawyers have argued and with success to get BAC results thrown out. All you have to do is prove they’re not accurate one way or another. It’s kind of relevant if it goes to trial.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:57 pm to
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Dude. I’m just talking about what can affect the number. You keep saying I’m trying to defend someone. How many times do I have to tell you I think they’re guilty?


It’s weird is all I’m saying. It’s going to be even more awkward when I bump this thread.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:58 pm to
Why would you bump it?
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:58 pm to
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First, I never said the fluids had ANY effect on blood alcohol CLEARANCE. I said that the added fluids to her blood would dilute the sample, making it appear less than it was.


That makes sense. What about blood loss? Can trauma somehow affect BAC in nonobvious ways?

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They study you reference is referring to a BREATH test measurement of BAC levels. I promise that they drew blood, she was likely unable to provide a breathalyzer test after being hit by a car. The BLOOD SAMPLE would likely be diluted, being that fluids were added to it.


I saw that too. And the affidavit says it was a blood sample.

So maybe the defense flips it. They say it was a diluted sample and, based on the methods used, would have been an undiluted number so high she couldn’t have walked, when we know she did walk into the street. So there must be something wrong with the measurement.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:58 pm to
Because you are going to hope it goes away
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:58 pm to
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it won’t be because of you and Roger the Stubby’s “opinions.”


I've been telling you this all thread, and you finally get it.

Holy frick, you finally...after days of this stupidity finally realize this is not a jury, its a court of public opinion.

Congrats.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 9:25 pm
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:59 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 9:01 pm
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:59 pm to
Why would I?
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:01 pm to
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If Washington is tried and convicted in LP before the EBRP court trials, would that fact be submissible in the EBRP court trial for all 4 of the idiots?


For him only if he takes the stand. Code of Evidence 609.1.

Otherwise it’s inadmissible under Rule 404.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:03 pm to
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Holy frick, you finally...after days of this stupidity finally realize this is not a jury, its a court of public opinion.


So why do I give a rat’s arse about your opinion?

I and most people here want to know if they’ll go to jail. And that’s what I’m discussing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:04 pm to
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No. Its what plenty of defense lawyers have argued and with success to get BAC results thrown out.


Gonna be more difficult in a rape case than a DUI case, after the Defendents own words..

Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:06 pm to
The threshold is supposed to be the same. But no doubt the prosecution would try a little harder to keep that value in evidence. Their words have no bearing on whether or not it gets accepted.
Posted by hmmmokay
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:06 pm to
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Does blood loss affect BAC?


No it would not.

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In conclusion, this literature review indicates that trauma and massive blood loss exert insignificant effects on a person's BAC and rate of ethanol metabolism.


LINK
Posted by inspectweld
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:07 pm to
Gotcha thanks
Posted by notbilly
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Its what plenty of defense lawyers have argued and with success to get BAC results thrown out. All you have to do is prove they’re not accurate one way or another. It’s kind of relevant if it goes to trial.


The defense is going to also try to poke holes in BAC based on the timeline. 1) when was her last drink, 2) the timing of the sex & 3) the time of the blood draw.

The sex/rape happened almost immediately after they left the bar. It is possible she was drinking late in the night and the defense would argue that while her BAC was .319 at the hospital it would have been lower at 2pm.

I saw Reggie’s claim she didn’t drink for the last hour but it’s hard to believe them as they are in CYA mode.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Just makes you look dumb, but whatever.


Oh heavens. I looked dumb on the OT. Time to end it all.

Dude, calling me dumb here is like giving the pace car a speeding ticket at a NASCAR race.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:09 pm to
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I saw Reggie’s claim she didn’t drink for the last hour but it’s hard to believe them as they are in CYA mode.


They came out strong on that. I wondered how they could be so sure. You’d have to have tape on her at all times.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:09 pm to
Just don't act like a bitch saying you're quitting the thread then post half of the next 50 replies.
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