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re: DEMCO Alert: Reduce Use Now!

Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
19191 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:11 pm to
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But what is everyone had an EV at home to charge like Democrats want?

president musk is a democrat?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
136982 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Yeah…the increased usage has nothing to do with trees snapping and hitting lines.

That was my first thought as well
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
27347 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:17 pm to
He has publicly stated expecting everyone to operate full electric is unrealistic and fossil fuels are still needed. Got anymore CNN talking points?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15624 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:21 pm to
If everyone had natural gas heat this wouldn't be happening.

Screw heat pumps and their little strip heaters.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153657 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:25 pm to
Gotta love being absolutely handcuffed by energy companies when your power mainly seems to go out when you need it the most.

And then on top of that they (legally) charge you more for it. Yay.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86691 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:40 pm to
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I think they should have upgraded their systems to deal with hurricanes that will come and do much worse than snow, and would get the job done well ahead of time
We hit a record load this morning. Has everything to do with it being cold and everyone home with their heaters on. You can’t prep a delivery system for that much less a few down lines from ice. Your understanding of the issue is limited to what you think hurricanes do.
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4137 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:04 pm to
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We hit a record load this morning. Has everything to do with it being cold and everyone home with their heaters on.
As opposed to 100+ degree heat in the summer? How can there possibly be more demand when there are a respectable amount of natural gas heating systems in the mix and air conditioning is all electric?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86691 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:08 pm to
An electric heater, which are abundant in Louisiana, use exponentially more wattage than an AC. If you’ve ever used a small fryer at a tailgate, you’d know this. Just one of those heating elements needs 1200 watts or more.

Louisiana’s peak load ALWAYS happens in the winter. What power companies can charge is partially based on that peak load number. So when Demco says “extreme demand,” they really mean record demand.

ETA: the wattage is almost 10:1

An electric home furnace will use anywhere from 20k-50k watts per hour while an AC will only pull 2.5k-5k. Now imagine a hot summer where lots of people are inside, but they may also be at the pool, or on vacation, or at work. Then imagine a freeze like this where school is closed, work from home, and no one can go outside for long periods. At 7AM this morning everyone’s heater turns up, everyone’s lights turn on, etc. There is a HUGE spike! It only lasts a couple days whereas the summer heat can last weeks and weeks. This is why the summer bill is higher.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 4:17 pm
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7919 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:17 pm to
This is what happens when they build entire neighborhoods without gas service to save a buck or the greenies say that NG isn’t carbon friendly.

NG is actually one of the most efficient heating methods available.

Actions have consequences.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28335 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:17 pm to
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As opposed to 100+ degree heat in the summer? How can there possibly be more demand when there are a respectable amount of natural gas heating systems in the mix and air conditioning is all electric?


While it has already been explained for an easy comparison ask any of your SELA neighbors that have ALL their heat produced by electricity what months their highest bills are. Unless they live in a meat locker 12 months a year it will always be a winter month and not August.

Also consider the temperature delta in the summer and last night and tonight. If you keep your house 68 year round the delta last night was approaching 60 degrees, it is fairly rarely 120+ in SELA.
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4137 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:25 pm to
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NG is actually one of the most efficient heating methods available.
And my NG is cranked to the hilt and ATMOS is not whining about NG usage. So DEMCO can up their game if they want to be an electric power supplier in this area. What sucks is that the end user does not have a choice in the matter. Funny, I also have property that is serviced by ENTERGY and they aren't crying like bitches.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86691 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:26 pm to
NG, while better and more efficient, needs to also improve its infrastructure. Low pressure can be a problem during these times as well. Whole home generators brought in a lot of demand for it.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23337 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:28 pm to
What is being missed here is that this type of weather hasn't happened since what, 1890? No power company builds their system to handle extremes that happen every 130 years. Just like Texas during their freeze. And yes, when the system is hitting new peaks and outages occur, especially down wire or broken poles, peak demand limits your backfeed capability. Every power company deals with this in extremes. I'm not a DEMCO apologist, but just being realistic. Oh, and all of you natural gas homies, what would happen if there are mass power outages and everyone tried to run NG heat/stoves/water heaters? NG pressure would plummet and none of your stuff would work. Again, extremes aren't design cases.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86691 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:28 pm to
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Funny, I also have property that is serviced by ENTERGY and they aren't crying like bitches.
Entergy controls everything from the generation, major transmission, and distribution. Demco is distribution ONLY. They are only concerned with the load on their smaller substations and lines.
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And my NG is cranked to the hilt and ATMOS is not whining about NG usage.
They get pretty anxious when hurricanes come through and power gets lost. Because the whole home generators start up at once and pressure becomes a problem.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
1928 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:30 pm to
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But what is everyone had an EV at home to charge like Democrats want?


We'd be fricked like democrats want. They love to create crisis although they never really solve any.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23337 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:31 pm to
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serviced by ENTERGY and they aren't crying like bitches.


Entergy is an IOU...they are trying to make money. That's why they want you using all the electricity you can handle. Then, when their system fails, they'll charge you for the upgrades and the usage. Then you are on here crying. DEMCO is COOP....COOPs are not for profit. They are trying to service their customer at the lowest cost possible. Not saying they are making all the right decisions, but your cost is a factor in where and what they spend.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86691 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:36 pm to
Entergy, as a generation producer, has it in their best interest to keep the power on during the coldest days of the year. Again, it’s because the next year’s rate is partially based on the peak demand.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86691 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:37 pm to
EVs don’t pull nearly as much as people think, nor do they take up load during peak hours. They charge overnight when the lights are off and heat/AC is generally used the least.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3108 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:02 pm to
Is there a power company that the OT likes or even is just OK with?


Entergy and Demco apparently are worse than cancer.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
14964 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Is there a power company that the OT likes or even is just OK with?

Utility companies are universally hated. Back when I was doing utility infrastructure work we routinely had crews get attacked by pissed off people even though we were just a contractor.
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