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re: Delta Moves On...Cleanup Begins

Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:27 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40387 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:27 am to
The last run of the GFS puts Delta due south of BR when it comes inland as a Cat 3. It has Delta more westward early keeping in the southern GOM a little longer. Not good.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:27 am to
Y’all do this to yourselves every time. Not sure if it’s it mental conditioning from the media, but there are so many things that can change between now and landfall..... this thing isn’t even to the western tip of Cuba and people are already assuming the worst



I’m not saying I’m right, or that you’re wrong, I’m just saying, keep your eye on this thing but give it some time
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60874 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:29 am to
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keep your eye on this thing but give it some time


Thanks. I was looking for some great knowledge such as this.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8594 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:32 am to
We should know more once we get more information
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:32 am to
Straight from NHC site

quote:

The convective structure of Delta has continued to improve this morning. Earlier microwave data and early-light visible satellite imagery showed that the center of the tropical cyclone re-formed farther south within the area of deep convection. Since that time, banding has continued to increase around the southern and eastern portion of the circulation, and a small CDO-like feature has formed. The intensity has been set at 40 kt, which is a blend of the subjective Dvorak estimate from TAFB and objective satellite intensity estimates from UW/CIMSS. A NOAA Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate the tropical storm this afternoon, which should provide a better assessment of the cyclone's intensity, structure, and wind field.

With the earlier center re-formation, the initial motion estimate is a somewhat uncertain 280/6 kt. Delta is expected to resume a west-northwestward motion later today. A northwestward heading around the southwestern portion of a deep-layer ridge should begin tonight or Tuesday, and that general motion with some increase in forward speed is expected to continue through 60-72 hours. After that time, a broad mid- to upper-level trough is forecast to develop over the south-central United States, which should weaken the western portion of the ridge and cause Delta to turn northward toward the northern Gulf Coast. After day 4, Delta should begin to accelerate north-northeastward or northeastward ahead of the aforementioned trough. The new NHC track forecast has been adjusted to the south and west of the previous advisory during the first couple of days, primarily due to the recent center re-formation and more southward initial position. After that time, the NHC track is not much different than the previous forecast and lies near the center of the tightly clustered dynamical model envelope.

Delta is forecast to traverse very warm waters over the northwestern Caribbean Sea and be in a very low vertical wind shear environment during the next couple of days. These conditions should allow for significant strengthening during that time, and the NHC intensity forecast is at or above the various intensity aids. It is somewhat surprising that the intensity aids were generally a little lower this cycle, but the expected low shear and SHIPS rapid intensification index support the higher than climatological rate of intensification. After 72 hours, increasing southwesterly shear and the cooler shelf waters over the northern Gulf are likely to induce some weakening later in the period. The updated NHC intensity forecast calls for a faster rate of intensification over the next 48-60 hours, but is similar to the previous advisory thereafter.


Doesn't sound very wishcasting to me when you read that advisory. I guess NHC is looking for clicks too huh? It has conditions to support a major hurricane plain and simple.
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 11:34 am
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1928 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:32 am to
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Don’t buy into that shite


Dude is fearcasting for attention because in all likelihood, this is his last hurricane for the season


Rain event. That’s all this will be



If the newest GFS is to believed, I would say otherwise


Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1928 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:36 am to
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TROPICAL STORM DELTA ANALYSED POSITION : 16.4N 78.5W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL262020

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 05.10.2020 0 16.4N 78.5W 1004 34
0000UTC 06.10.2020 12 16.9N 80.2W 1001 34
1200UTC 06.10.2020 24 18.2N 82.2W 998 35
0000UTC 07.10.2020 36 20.3N 84.6W 995 39
1200UTC 07.10.2020 48 22.2N 87.4W 984 49
0000UTC 08.10.2020 60 23.9N 90.0W 976 55
1200UTC 08.10.2020 72 24.7N 91.9W 972 64
0000UTC 09.10.2020 84 25.3N 92.1W 969 63
1200UTC 09.10.2020 96 27.3N 91.6W 960 69
0000UTC 10.10.2020 108 29.9N 90.6W 971 57
1200UTC 10.10.2020 120 32.0N 89.6W 992 32
0000UTC 11.10.2020 132 33.1N 87.7W 998 24
1200UTC 11.10.2020 144 34.5N 85.6W 1002 22

TROPICAL STORM MARIE ANALYSED POSITION : 20.6N 131.5W



UKMET agrees with GFS track and similarly, strength
Posted by chicano12
Member since Jun 2010
1000 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:37 am to
3-5” expected per WAFB
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
23030 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:37 am to
Rain won’t be the issue with this storm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44260 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:40 am to
Anything Cat 2 or stronger sucks for South LA

This bitch better weaken in cooler waters
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5630 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:40 am to
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Rain event. That’s all this will be


It's not going to be a rain event if it is moving that fast
The most rain anyone got from Laura was only around 6"
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
144319 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Doesn't sound very wishcasting to me when you read that advisory. I guess NHC is looking for clicks too huh? It has conditions to support a major hurricane plain and simple.

sounds like the NHC is very happy with the current track forecast and that the recent move west was only due to the storm itself reforming its center under the convection

reading that would have me believe future tracks shouldn't deviate all that much from where it is right now... maybe the typical windshield wiper motion of a few miles... but no major turns at this moment

of course... subject to change without reason
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:40 am to
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We should know more once we get more information



Once we get more information we should know more. Just give it time.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
67019 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:43 am to
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A northwestward heading around the southwestern portion of a deep-layer ridge should begin tonight or Tuesday, and that general motion with some increase in forward speed is expected to continue through 60-72 hours. After that time, a broad mid- to upper-level trough is forecast to develop over the south-central United States, which should weaken the western portion of the ridge and cause Delta to turn northward toward the northern Gulf Coast. After day 4, Delta should begin to accelerate north-northeastward or northeastward ahead of the aforementioned trough.

This bit right here needs to be stickied to the OP. This question will be asked multiple times in the coming days. The NHC has a pretty good grasp on the overall steering features for this storm. These are the features that will impact Delta's track and the windows/timeframes they are likely to occur.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
10026 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:44 am to
quote:

quote:
If the NHC was a betting person in blackjack they would put bets on red and black. So they try not to lose, but you always have that chance you get 0 or 00.


Classic hurricane thread post. Is there a bingo spot for "Incoherent Nonsense"?


I was just making an observation based on what the NHC is trying to do. It is part comedy.

They don't exactly know where it is going unless someone has invented time travel, but they have an idea of where they think it could head to.

That is why they draw the cone, it covers most of their bases. So hence the gambling reference. But I fricked it up. It is not blackjack, it is roulette.

I really need to stop sniffing glue before breakfast.
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 11:47 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
144319 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I was just making an observation based on what the NHC is trying to do. It is a part comedy.

They don't exactly know where it is going unless someone has invented time travel, but they have an idea of where they think it could head to.

That is why they draw the cone, it covers most of their bases. So hence the gambling reference. But I fricked it up. It is not blackjack, it is roulette.

I really need to stop sniffing glue before breakfast.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
67019 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:47 am to
quote:

They don't exactly know where it is going unless someone has invented time travel, but they have an idea of where they think it could head to.

So....meteorological forecasting?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:47 am to
Have those models ever been wrong 5 days out? Have they ever shifted completely away from where they were initially scheduled to go? I feel like I’ve seen that happen maybe once or twice in my lifetime (THIS YEAR)
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60874 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:48 am to
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After 72 hours, increasing southwesterly shear and the cooler shelf waters over the northern Gulf are likely to induce some weakening later in the period
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86741 posts
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:49 am to
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So....meteorological forecasting?


Fake news comes to Meteorology
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