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re: DEF in fuel tank
Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:15 pm to Cosmo
Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:15 pm to Cosmo
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Fuel wasnt contaminated
Moron put DEF in
Which is a contamination. The policy likely covers accidental contamination. Water in fuel is also a contamination. Somewhere along the line someone made a mistake and allowed a contaminant to enter the fuel whether in restocking the fuel at the station down to putting the wrong substance directly into the vehicle.
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:15 pm to dkreller
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Idk how people continue to make this mistake. You have to be retarded.
Eh, I could see how some might think DEF is an abbreviation for Diesel Fuel or something
Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:24 pm to Will Cover
We had an issue at work where a guy filled one of our F-250's slap full of gasoline. he realized what he did right after he did it so we had the truck towed and drained. shite like this happens more often than you would think.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:24 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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Does this friend not carry comprehensive coverage on his vehicle? Why isn’t the insurance company handling the fuel contamination issue?
Some carriers were covering this type of incident but last I heard, most were denying DEF claims. It sure doesn't hurt to try and file it though.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:26 pm to Will Cover
No fuel/water separator or “water in fuel” warning light?
Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:36 pm to Will Cover
This is about right depending on size of engine. I know the Silverado 1500 is about 15k
If you do this do not turn the engine on. That way all they have to do is drain the tank. If the engine is on though it's a wrap
If you do this do not turn the engine on. That way all they have to do is drain the tank. If the engine is on though it's a wrap
Posted on 9/27/24 at 1:38 pm to Will Cover
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Will Cover
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Not mine. I didn't do it. I'm only relaying what I am being told. And trying to help them.
Is this the Finnish dude you were meeting for sex?
Posted on 9/27/24 at 2:08 pm to Will Cover
If you put DEF in the fuel tank and start it it only takes seconds for that contaminated fuel to get all the way to the injectors. Everything it has touched has to be replaced. We do these all the time. Occasionally the people catch it before they start it and all we have to do is remove the tank and clean it all. If they drive that one till it started misfiring, it very well could have damaged the engine. These prices is folks posting are in the ballpark.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 2:10 pm to sleepytime
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Some carriers were covering this type of incident but last I heard, most were denying DEF claims. It sure doesn't hurt to try and file it though.
All carriers cover the scenario in the OP. What they don’t cover is DEF used correctly and causing engine issues. That is a maintenance issue and no policy covers it.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 9/27/24 at 2:18 pm to BET
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People think def is mixed with diesel when it is not.
Those people are idiots who need to ask themselves a questions before filling up?
Does the color of the fuel tank cap match the color of the nozzle that I have in my hand? Green is for diesel and light blue is for DEF.
quote:
DEF fluid is released into the exhaust line
Which is why it is called Diesel Exhaust Fluid.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 2:25 pm to WeeWee
the def pumps are such a stupid fricked up design I dont see how anyone could make this mistake. any time I touched one of those thats the first thing i thought.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 2:26 pm to MikeAV8s
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Everything it has touched has to be replaced.
Additionally, with an oil lubricated fuel pump you'll generally send glitter through the whole oil system and wipe the entire engine out. It happens alot.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 3:07 pm to Will Cover
I did this on accident in my 2011 f250. The first year model that required it. I was in a grocery store parkin lot. Was low on DEF so i decided to fill up. I got distracted by a hot chick walkin by and poured it in my diesel tank. Luckly i knew i fricked up. Didnt even turn the key on. Called a tow truck and took it to ford. Cost me $1100 to drain the diesel tank. My cousin told me if i had turned on my truck it wouldve been a $20k frick up
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:23 pm to BigBinBR
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All carriers cover the scenario in the OP. What they don’t cover is DEF used correctly and causing engine issues. That is a maintenance issue and no policy covers it.
Even on commercial auto?
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:34 pm to White Bear
Filter can’t possibly trap all the water.
By the time the “water in fuel” light comes on, it’s too late.
Any DEF in the fuel system is instant catastrophe failure to the fuel system. If continued to run, the engine is toast real fast.
By the time the “water in fuel” light comes on, it’s too late.
Any DEF in the fuel system is instant catastrophe failure to the fuel system. If continued to run, the engine is toast real fast.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:42 pm to Will Cover
How mych is his deductible? Surely less than $22k
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:43 pm to sleepytime
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Even on commercial auto?
Yes. They pay for “accidents” like a moron employee doing something dumb. It would be the same as if a moron employee managed to put unleaded in a diesel. It’s an accident. The employee “intentionally” put the substance in the vehicle, but only because they were stupid not because they were attempting to cause damage.
However, if an employee maliciously poured something into the tank to get back at the employer it would still likely covered for the employer as vandalism, but the carrier would look to recover their payments from the employee (and may require the employer to file a police report).
They will not pay for something that is considered a maintenance issue or wear and tear. An engine that just breaks down because of poor design would be considered maintenance and not covered.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:47 pm to BET
quote:I would be more concerned with main/rod bearing issues if I saw metal glitter in the oil.
metal shavings in an engine's oil is a sign of severe failure in the compression chambers of your engine
Posted on 9/27/24 at 7:31 pm to WeeWee
quote:exactly
Green is for diesel and light blue is for DEF.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:26 pm to Will Cover
Buy a complete low mileage engine from Copart. Will come with a warranty and be significantly cheaper than 20k. Probably less than 4k if you have a mechanic friend to help install.
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