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re: Deducting plumbing costs from rent

Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:11 am to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:11 am to
honestly that is very likely. No way it's still frozen and most breaks are cracks that take maybe 10%-20% of the flow. A no water at all issue sounds like water is off, or not being supplied to the meter.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:13 am to
quote:

A no water at all issue sounds like water is off, or not being supplied to the meter.



I have suspected this for a while I just haven't had time yet to go hunting for the main valve. It's a 6 unit apartment building and some of the other units have trickles of water. I know 100% that its only metered in one location and then the water bill is split 6 ways. This would lead me to believe that there's only one main shutoff valve and not 6 individual ones? Hopefully they aren't under the house because that would be a total bitch to crawl under there especially because I don't know where I'd be going to find anything.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:33 am to
Here's what you should do.

Have a professional licensed plumber come out, pay for it yourself, and verify in writing that you have no water. Write a letter to the landlord, date it, asking for the water to be back in no more than 72 hours.

If it's not. Then move. A lease would never stand up to not having water for 72 hours. 72 might even be too long. 24-48 is probably even more reasonable.

Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:39 am to
quote:

know 100% that its only metered in one location and then the water bill is split 6 ways.


Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86416 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:40 am to
If your landlord is worth a shite, you’d have a provision in your lease obligating you to take preventative measures during a freeze.

I’d be deducting my plumber’s bill from your security deposit.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:41 am to
quote:

If your landlord is worth a shite, you’d have a provision in your lease obligating you to take preventative measures during a freeze.


There isn't any.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:44 am to
The valve is at the meter. A water key or a good pipe wrench will open the valve and I’m willing to bet this is the problem if all 6 units are the same as you. Whoever fixed the broken pipes didn’t turn the water back on.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74900 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:49 am to
that's what I thought at first, but he's in a small complex. In that case the property manager should take care of preparing for a freeze.

Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:55 am to
I assume you're being quite assertive right?

Because not having water and having your LL tell you "I've done what I can" is fricking laughable.

Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:56 am to
quote:

The valve is at the meter.


Ok. The other tenants have slight flow and I have no flow. So not quite the same situation. When I find the meter how do I tell if its running? I know there's a dial that shows water usage but is it easy to tell that its going at the moment?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60184 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 9:57 am to
Everybody in Nola showers with bottled water anyway
Posted by whodatdude
Member since Feb 2011
1497 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:29 am to
This should give you plenty of information on your rights and who to contact (LA AG or Fair Housing) if the issue isn't remedied.

LINK

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LINK

Knowing your rights against shitty landlords is critical, especially in weather situations. Warrant of Habitability is required in Louisiana, otherwise you can legally deduct repairs from your rent. You'll have to document everything though.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:43 am to
Thank you.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Unfortunately the lease forbids withholding rent for any reason


If it were me, I would like my chances in court. Contracts dont void laws.
Posted by SUB
Silver Tier TD Premium
Member since Jan 2009
26335 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:52 am to
quote:

If it were me, I would like my chances in court. Contracts dont void laws.


Yep. Your landlord sounds like a POS. If you don't have many other options, do like others said and get a licensed plumber to come out and document the problem in writing, then get it fixed and withhold amount from rent. If your landlord complains, cite the law and that his lease does not trump the law. I can't see any court ruling against you if he basically told you he can't / won't fix the plumbing, which is a basic necessity.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 10:57 am to
Goodness man stop being nice and tell them you don't have water and they need to fix it yesterday.

Eta: op it's not your issue to figure out why it's not working, bother your landlord until it is. As said document your messages by email, certified mail, or text messages you can track.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 10:59 am
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
117554 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:15 am to
Not sure if it’s been said but put EVERYTHING in writing to said landlord, don’t just call him.
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24261 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Not sure if it’s been said but put EVERYTHING in writing to said landlord, don’t just call him.


So far all communication has been sent via text.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
117554 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:37 am to
Write a letter and send it to him. Something he has to sign for maybe?

Put all issues and all requests in the letter. That’s your protection if it goes to court. Also, get estimates for repairs yourself. write another letter with all that information in it and contacts for the contractors. Put a timeline in that letter. If he fails to fix it then, you probably will have a case for deducting repairs if/whenwhen he goes to court. But you have to give the a-hole time to actually attempt to fix it.

I’ve heard our judge lecture people enough times in eviction court how they went about things the wrong way. Those are the steps he tells them to take.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17377 posts
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Hey, is your landlord an old lady in New Jersey, if so RUN!!!!
quote:

If your landlord is in New Jersey, and your property manager is an hispanic looking lady on Napoleon across from Pascal Manale's move out now.


Sounds like you need to post up the contact info for this nice lady. The OT can get to work.
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