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re: Death penalty vs life
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I'm flatly opposed to the death penalty. First, I don't trust the government enough to give it power over life and death. Second, it's impossible to have a death penalty without executing some innocent people, as we know for a fact has happened repeatedly. Third, I find the modern death penalty incompatible with Christianity.
Regardless, it isn't justice to execute a man for a committing a completely different non-capital crime. The death penalty is only applied to certain crimes for a reason.
quote:This is just flat out false. A good number of people saved from the death penalty hadn't committed any crime whatsoever, and some had forced confessions beaten out of them by police.
Because everyone of those "Innocence Project" cases where they free someone from Death Row, they dude was a criminal and deserved the death penalty, but was an accomplice or committed some other heinous crime.
It's not like they are picking up innocent dudes off the street.
Regardless, it isn't justice to execute a man for a committing a completely different non-capital crime. The death penalty is only applied to certain crimes for a reason.
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:30 pm to OKBoomerSooner
quote:I don’t need to justify execution. A law that prescribes execution, so long as it’s according to right reason, is justifiably carried out by the state under Romans chapter 13.
But setting it because people “can’t” rehabilitate after X years just seems like a shortcut to feel better about the ethics of execution. It would be convenient to believe that since it would make execution much easier to justify on those grounds. But I don’t see where that’s actually true.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:35 pm to LCA131
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:35 pm to Lake08
Life , no parole , in Angola
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:37 pm to Lake08
Death penalty
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:39 pm to dukke v
quote:
Excellent retort, Peej.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:41 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
Define innocent.
Innocent....they did not commit the crime they were convicted of.
LINK
I agree that the article says "possibly innocent", but we will never know after the fact even though DNA evidence says some did not do the crime.
And even though it is hard to believe, yes, innocent people have been picked up off the street. Mistaken identity plays a role in more than a few.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:41 pm to Lake08
Death penalty where they get taken to the death chamber multiple times only to be given a last minute reprieve. That would be such mental torture.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:42 pm to LCA131
You know what I was trying to say and came back with a cheap shot…
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:50 pm to AllbyMyRelf
quote:
I don’t need to justify execution. A law that prescribes execution, so long as it’s according to right reason, is justifiably carried out by the state under Romans chapter 13.
You’re the one that claimed it was “dishonest” to support a sentence between 10 years and death because they “can’t” be rehabilitated. Not Romans chapter 13.
At any rate, where’s the “right reason” in claiming that no one could be rehabilitated after 10 years?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 6:51 pm to Lake08
Death
Easy answer.
Easy answer.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:35 pm to OKBoomerSooner
My actual position is that a lot of crimes shouldn’t be consider felonies, and that many crimes that currently carry a lengthy sentence should actually have a cap of maybe 10 years (I’ve consistently used 10 years as the cap because it’s a good round number, but I could be convinced of something like 9 or 13 if you had a reason). People greatly underestimate how much time a 15 or 20 year sentence actually is.
However, I do believe the death penalty should be expanded to include major crimes like arson, robbery, kidnapping, rape, murder, grand larceny, etc.
There’s a difference in public policy justifications for death penalty (i.e., it has greater deterrence) and legal/ ethical justifications for the death penalty (i.e., who has the right to execute and where do they get their authority). Romans 13 sets forth the legal justification for execution.
Laws that prescribe the death penalty must be according to “right reason” which means they are for the common good (e.g., deterrence, retribution), made by lawful authority, and are knowable and binding.
However, I do believe the death penalty should be expanded to include major crimes like arson, robbery, kidnapping, rape, murder, grand larceny, etc.
There’s a difference in public policy justifications for death penalty (i.e., it has greater deterrence) and legal/ ethical justifications for the death penalty (i.e., who has the right to execute and where do they get their authority). Romans 13 sets forth the legal justification for execution.
Laws that prescribe the death penalty must be according to “right reason” which means they are for the common good (e.g., deterrence, retribution), made by lawful authority, and are knowable and binding.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:37 pm to Lake08
I don't trust the government to kill the right people so I am against the government killing anyone.
They may get it right some of the time, and that's just not a good enough reason to give them the power to kill.
They may get it right some of the time, and that's just not a good enough reason to give them the power to kill.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:40 pm to AllbyMyRelf
Ok, we’re actually on the same page then for the most part. 
Your insight on the length of what I’d call “medium” range sentences is spot-on and greatly underappreciated IMO.
Your insight on the length of what I’d call “medium” range sentences is spot-on and greatly underappreciated IMO.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:58 pm to AllbyMyRelf
quote:
Throughout most of human history, major crimes (historically felonies) have received the death penalty. Historically, societies rarely ever had long prison sentences for criminals. If you think someone deserves longer than say 10 years for a crime, then what you’re really saying is they can’t be rehabilitated and they shouldn’t come back into society—so just be honest and give them the death penalty.
The older I get the less patience I have with felonious recidivism. At a certain point people are beyond hope so I can see the logic behind just putting them down like a dog that bites.
I guess we just pay to keep them in prison because we consider ourselves to be more civilized and empathetic than what is required to face the reality that these people are better dead than alive.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:14 pm to CHiPs25
quote:Too quick, too painless.
Death by firing squad and the firing squad is me.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:43 pm to Lake08
Death. LWOP is too easy. They get put into general population, lots of fresh air and sunshine, playing cards, watching football on the weekends, cooking pizza in their cell, visiting with their family. Meanwhile your loved one is in a box 6 feet under.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 9:59 pm to Lake08
I think the family of the victim/s should have complete control over the execution method. I also think it should be done in public and on pay-per-view cable television.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 10:00 pm to Lake08
Life with a chance for parole.
I have my reasons.
I have my reasons.
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