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Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:00 am to
Read your thread. You're in my thoughts sister.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:51 am to
i do not plan on having children, as many in this thread but I don't begrudge or judge those who still choose to chase the American dream of a wife , three kids , and a white picket fence.

I honestly just try to be the best person I can be, and interact with my small social circle and try to enjoy life.

for me as of today this is the lg. weed. and the occasional tinder thots.

but I'm considering changing my Lifee all around.

I have a grand inheritance that I've considered buying a van and just going into van life for awhile.

off the grid. idk seems like an okay like away from all the crazy ppl in this world

anyway sorry to hear about your uncle. sometimes when I smoke I ramble on.. sorry if my post doesn't make much sense. I promise it is all conceptual in a round about sorta way
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 1:12 am
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:01 am to
quote:

you may have been right about his kidneys. While at ER I figured they would medically clear him and see about admitting him inpatient psych. Turns out his WBC count was elevated and while his chest xray were ok...his kidney function had dropped a good bit. Which they said could certainly affect his mental status. So he was admitted to a medical unit at another hospital. And we will see if after he is medically stable does he still need inpatient psych.

What antibiotics was he treated with during his pneumonia hospital stay? Fluoroquinolones can cause a bad delirium in certain patients and are commonly prescribed by hospitalists for pneumonia. Also what was his kidney function when he left the hospital the first time and what was it when y’all went to the ER and got admitted again?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:59 am to
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I haven't been the best Christian


Real faith is more about finding it than where you find it. I grew up in the church but have seen it in other faiths as well. Conversely, know lots of folks claiming to be christian that are without true faith.

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Severe anxiety with obsessive thoughts related to the anxiety. Some depression as well. Recently he's been delusional at times


Has his shrink checked him for schizophrenia?

Anxiety and depression are often secondary indicators. If your dad has addictions to booze are drugs they are often used to "self medicate" which often has the reverse effect to those trying to help them.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:10 pm to
Any update on OP's dad?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 9:13 pm to
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Any update on OP's dad?

none that ive seen, but dfintlyHmmrd is stil a dickbag
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:01 pm to
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Severe anxiety with obsessive thoughts related to the anxiety. Some depression as well. Recently he's been delusional at times (no auditory or visual hallucinations...just believing situations are real that are not). Dementia has never been stated as something he has by either the psych facility he spent time in last year or his psychiatrist he has been seeing. But I will approach that topic with his doctor.
Nurse, first of all thank you for trusting us enough to share all of this with us.

As previously stated, I went through this with my father.
I want to 2nd the guy who suggested the neurologist. It might not do anything about the problem, but at least you'll know exactly where he's coming from.

I'm no doctor, but it sounds EXACTLY like my dad. And it was determined that my dad didn't have Alzheimer's (like we suspected), but in fact had a series of mini-strokes which brought about an onset of dementia.

People with dementia can be their normal selves during the day, and there's something about night time. Once the sun goes down, they go fricking crazy. It's called Sundowners Syndrome. Look it up and read about it.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:42 pm to
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Has his shrink checked him for schizophrenia?



In the 2 years he has been seeing my dad, he has never said he was schizophrenic. Remember...the delusions are a new thing. And my father doesn't drink at all or use any recreational drugs or even smoke cigarettes.

My dad still on medical unit. Just got home from visiting him and about to go to bed. Long day. His kidney function is much improved. He gets a little confused at time and he seems shakier right now. He has a 24/7 sitter so that is good. But he isn't calling me nonstop anymore. Knows where he is at. Can tell me he doesn't want to go home until he can function better.


The hospitalist this am had a case worker come see my dad to assess for psych placement. Talked at length with her. Basically if my dad isn't a danger to his self or others....he won't be accepted by any inpatient geri-psych units. Yay for our wonderful mental health system.

She did say he isn't fully medically cleared yet and when he is the doctor can consult again and they can reassess. She basically just told me to follow up with his psychiatrist. And start paperwork for durable mental health power of attorney for my dad for the future.


ETA: She also suggested we get him seen by a neurologist.

Basically what I learned today is that if I want my father to receive inpatient psych help in the future...lie and say he is making suicidal threats again. Then maybe they will want to help him.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 11:45 pm
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:19 am to
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Then maybe they will want to help him.


Other than bugging you on your anniversary weekend, what is he doing?

I say block him and call on your time. Just because he's mentally ill doesn't give him a right to be a dick to others
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:41 am to
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ETA: She also suggested we get him seen by a neurologist.


Do this. Two months before MIL passed, she started very close to what your dad is going thru. Forgot what it was, but is was something that attack her brain with no cure.
Posted by djangochained
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:30 am to
What about an assisted living place

Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:27 am to
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What about an assisted living place


Any option like that is gonna only cause more serious problems for my family.

1) they are poor
2) any home placement will take my dad’s SS check each month....which my mom and siblings need in combination with what little money they make at minimum wage jobs to live on
3) what little bit of money they do have in savings/checking will be taken by any home or assisted living. They would only let my family keep $2000 in checking/savings combined. Without my dad’s SS check each month helping with their living expenses and then no safety net to fall back on....would put my mom and siblings in a bad situation.

It’s a complicated situation

ETA: and they can’t transfer money to me to avoid the home taking it. They will look at last 5 years of banking statements to look for such transfers.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 7:30 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:31 am to
Wow, you are dealing with aging parents who are poor, dementia and siblings that need constant care. Prayers to you for that.

I thought our situation was tough, caring for one aging parent.

Bless your heart, and continued prayers to your family.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:41 am to
I don’t know if it is dementia or part of his mental illness.

I will get him to a neurologist and have them assess.

It’s just frustrating. We are asking for help for my dad. I’m telling them he needs to spend a couple days in inpatient psych, in a safe environment while they adjust his meds. Clearly he needs changes to his meds. And the system is that they cannot help us with that. Unless my dad presents as a danger to himself or others. Even though my dad has insurance....tough shite....he has to go home and just see his psychiatrist.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27783 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:51 am to
Sounds like YOU need case management.

I mean that. You need the card and contact info of the case manager you ever speak with that you feel is good at their job. Or a good Geri psych intake person. They can be a resource.

Are you able to take in your siblings? When the time comes you will be the POA.

You are going to wind up your entire families keeper. I wish you the best of luck. Sounds like you are preparing yourself for that reality already. Health care people can take care of their own. Meaning lean on the resource people you work with. Maybe they can get you an inside track on placement. One of the few perks of healthcare.

Where do you and they live? Just state wise. I’m not trying to get creepy. Lol
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:57 am to
I live in Scottsdale, AZ and they live 40 minutes away in Glendale.

My therapist says my siblings could go live in a group home after my parents are gone. He strongly encourages that vs them coming to live with me.

I’m trying to live my own life as well. Still pursuing fertility treatments so my husband and I can finally have a family of our own.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:21 am to
I don't know why this post is getting downvoted.

I'm not some monster that is gonna just abandon my family. If I couldn't find a decent group home where my siblings could have as much independence as their conditions allow....I would of course consider them coming to live with me. But I've just had several people (counselors, my therapists, etc) tell me that a group home setting would be better for all involved.

I'm still allowed to have a life as well. How many of you that care for aging parents also have families and lives of your own?
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:21 am to
Honestly until the states and the feds get their arse in gear and rebuild the Asylum system in a humane way with technology to provide impromptu on site and off site audits, there just won't be enough beds.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:37 am to
Yeah I know the bed situation is always an issue.

It just sucks. His own psychiatrist told us to take him to the ER so he can get admitted to inpatient psych to stabilize while they adjust meds.

All of the staff there have my number and know that it is best to call me to discuss my dad. Luckily today I don't have any meetings so can easily step out to take calls about my dad at work. I'll call later today and get updates from the nurse and have the hospitalist call me as well to let me know what's going on. I'll also contact psychiatrist today and let him know what's going on.

I'll go visit my dad again today after work.


He's still on oxygen and getting breathing treatments. Likely remnants from his pneumonia he was in another hospital for last weekend. So maybe that can at least keep him in the hospital another day instead of us being told he has to go home(and not to psych) today.


I still think this is an acute event with my dad that could be helped with a change of his medication.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 8:44 am
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:19 am to
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I don't know why this post is getting downvoted


I've dealt with the mentally ill all my life and believe me, they "get" personal space...
They aren't <50 IQ...if this dude is wrecking your life, be straight with him and tell him to frick off for a few weeks, you need to recharge your batteries...

I said something similar and got a 9:1 downvote for all the people that don't believe in treating people fairly...protected class and all, frick that, everyone has shite to deal with
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