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re: Dating a Catholic when you're not

Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112835 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:50 pm to
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You are most definitely having premarital sex. She cannot be that serious about Catholicism.
Yea, but every religious person who speaks about the Bible obviously picks and chooses which part of the Bible they ignore and which parts they follow along with.

Religion, ain't it grand!!!
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5327 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:51 pm to
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Catholics take it to literally be the very Body and Blood of Christ


Catholic dogma maintains that the Eucharist served at Mass is literally the body and blood of Christ, and that it is transformed into (again, literally) the actual flesh and blood of Jesus in a process called transubstantiation, which happens as a part of the Mass.

Can't swallow that belief? Catholicism ain't for you.
Posted by LSUBanker
Gonzales, La
Member since Sep 2003
2675 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:52 pm to
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The core principles of Methodists and Catholics are the same. Shouldn't really be an issue.


Grew up Catholic and now attend Methodist church. No difference in the teachings...only the delivery.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44845 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:52 pm to
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You realize episcopalianism was created just for this sort of thing


My next door neighbors he is a Methodist and she is a Episcopalian. All four of their children are baptize Catholic. She figured they were going to send them to Catholic schools for the next 14 years.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:52 pm to
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is probably the most important belief.


I'd argue that a belief is only important in how much it effects how you live your life.

Believing that Jesus was the son of God and his teachings deserve reverence and obedience, that will change who you are as a person. To what degree or by what means he performed supernatural acts will not.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:55 pm
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3110 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:52 pm to
You will HAVE to become Catholic. Your Children will be raised Catholic. Her family will have it no other way..period. How do you and your family feel about this....If you don't believe you can go "all in" on this...back away. It will/may cause all sorts of problems down the road. Personally, I would back away. The final decision is yours. Good luck,.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112835 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:53 pm to
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Lmao, the last time I was in church, the priest stopped the sermon to belittle some parents bc their kid was wearing nike gear instead of a suit and tie. I walked out that moment.
Oh hell no.

I'm not typically very vocal especially in a spot like that, but if I'm that parent or even if I have no affiliation to them, that is probably a spot where I'm speaking up to the priest in front of everyone.

Just being there should be enough, who gives a shite what you're wearing...especially a kid.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19267 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:55 pm to
My soon to be fiance is a devout catholic (no pics) and I am not religious at all.
I go to mass as often as I can with her and promise to raise our kids Catholic.
Don't really mind at all, makes her happy anyway. My kids can choose their own faith when they grow up if they want to.
She would never force me to convert and believe in something I truly don't. Her Catholic family also loves me and could care less about my religion as long as I treat her right.
I don't know much about Methodists but if you love her and she's worth it just do it. Organized religion is a joke anyway.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25426 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:57 pm to
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I'd argue that a belief is only important in how much it effects how you live your life.


Then you would not actually be a legit Catholic. You would be living as a heretic and in sin. Part of belonging to the faith is taking things as they are taught and decided by Church officials. The Catholics aren't exactly known for being very open minded in interpretations.

But I've known many (maybe most) Catholics who don't actually follow the teachings of their professed faith, except when it becomes convenient.
Posted by knowingabyss
Vermont
Member since Aug 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:58 pm to
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Oh hell no.

I'm not typically very vocal especially in a spot like that, but if I'm that parent or even if I have no affiliation to them, that is probably a spot where I'm speaking up to the priest in front of everyone.

Just being there should be enough, who gives a shite what you're wearing...especially a kid.


The best part was some guy going, "don't you know the commandments, thou shall not wear Jordan in the house of god"?

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59118 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:59 pm to
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Is this normal?


No. I'm Catholic and have dated women of other denominations and never felt the need to do that.

What I've found over time though is that people that behave like that aren't going to soften up later. Deep down she's going to want you to convert and it may well become a sticking point.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:01 pm to
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Then you would not actually be a legit Catholic. You would be living as a heretic and in sin


Maybe, but a pragmatic believer wouldn't let something so inconsequential ruin a relationship. Honestly if you think it's really flesh or really bread, the end result is the same, you believe in living the lessons that Jesus preached. So if it's the same end result, then why would anyone give a shite?
Posted by Skeet Mc
Member since Dec 2006
2958 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:02 pm to
He doesn't HAVE to become Catholic, but if she is devout about her faith, they will probably raise their children as Catholics and he will be following the Catholic doctrine by default. That being said, he may very well choose to convert to Catholicism to fully participate in the faith and be able to receive the Eucharist.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84584 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:02 pm to
Do you live in 1600s Europe? It might matter then.
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:04 pm to
Fish,
Believe it or not but christianity is in both denominations. How we serve our God and with what church is small beans. Either one is fine and will get you to where you need to go. Talk it over with the girl and work it out. Your relationship and your faith is worth it. Good luck and God Bless.
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3110 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:05 pm to
You are right. If he has a pair of balls he doesn't HAVE to do anything...but he will be under a lot of pressure from her family. If they are devout as he says she is. For the record I'm not a Catlick.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:07 pm to
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The short, bastardized version is that Catholics take it to literally be the very Body and Blood of Christ in the form of bread and wine while essentially all other Protestant religions except Episcopalian (by consensus statement,at least) believe it to be more a symbol of His presence.


Catholics belive it transforms through transubstantiation when the priest says the words.

Lutherans belive it is when a true believer accepts the bread and blood into their body.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25426 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:08 pm to
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So if it's the same end result, then why would anyone give a shite?


Maybe it is something that you are willing to put up with as the non-Catholic end of the relationship, but the point is if your spouse is a legit devout Catholic then you had better get used to particular points like this being deal breakers. Along with the specific beliefs about premarital sex, contraceptives, non-vaginal sex, abortion, sacraments for potential future children, divorce, etc.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:11 pm to
Methodists are pretty much the first cousins to Catholics, fwiw. Tell her that.
Posted by Wermanium
Member since Apr 2016
760 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:17 pm to
Run. The different religions is hard to overcome. Ultimately was the cause of my divorce.
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