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re: Danny Masterson Sentenced To 30 Years In Prison After Rape Convictions

Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:39 pm to
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Don’t you have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that the crime happened? With just words… how do you accomplish that?

Depending on who your eyewitnesses are, I think it can be done. But I'm with you, it's pretty dicey.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76831 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:42 pm to
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find it troubling that someone can be convicted of rape based solely on testimony


This should trouble everyone but it happens all the time. The flimsiest accusation will get a man arrested and a decent story will get him convicted.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
27667 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:26 pm to
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are they leaving something out of the these articles? Very weird.



All of these articles are very light on details but allegedly there was a $400k hush-money payout to one of the victims and the scientologists killed the other's dog/pet but I couldn't find an article with that information, only from what has been shared in this thread.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2225 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:44 pm to
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Largely testimony. The lack of rape kits and the like are due to this: quote: The women blamed the church for their hesitancy in going to police about Masterson. They testified that when they reported him to Scientology officials, they were told they were not raped, were put through ethics programs themselves, and were warned against going to law enforcement to report a member of such high standing. AP article on conviction


I hope they go after the “church” too. They equally deserve 30 years to life in prison.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
2826 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:47 pm to
The Scientology angle makes it a really interesting Netflix documentary in the making.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:01 pm to
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All of these articles are very light on details but allegedly there was a $400k hush-money payout to one of the victims and the scientologists killed the other's dog/pet but I couldn't find an article with that information, only from what has been shared in this thread.

Wish he could get a refund.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
27667 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:10 pm to
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Wish he could get a refund.



This might make a decent documentary in the future, with Weinstein there was a lot of evidence that he was doing those things even after the years has passed but with Masterson it was seemingly all testimony.

I would like to know what changed for the prosecutors between the previous trial which was ruled a "mistrial" and this second trial which succesully landed two out three convictions. Was the $400k not brought up in the first trial, what about the involvement of the Scientologists in covering up the rapes and killing one of the victim's dogs. Was the drugging of the victims also not brought up in the first trial and what changed the judge's mind to allow the prosecutors to use the drugging as a fact against the defense?
Posted by McGruff21
Member since Aug 2023
372 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:28 pm to
I doubt Masterson does even 5 years. He will probably get the Bill Cosby early release special.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9871 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:28 pm to
I don't understand how this went to trial. The statute of limitations had passed. They changed the law, but that shouldn't have mattered in this case. It's too old. It should all be reversed on those grounds..
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9447 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:34 pm to
THAT dude will be in his 70’S before he SHOWs his face in public again.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:38 pm to
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im sorry but if i had the money he had and i was out on bail....im gone. frick that.


How much money do you think he has/had?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:38 pm to
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don't understand how this went to trial. The statute of limitations had passed. They changed the law, but that shouldn't have mattered in this case. It's too old. It should all be reversed on those grounds..


So he should be a free man on a technicality?
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4936 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:42 pm to
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THAT dude will be in his 70’S before he SHOWs his face in public again.

I see what you were going for here, but maybe just leave the funny to others.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4936 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:43 pm to
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So he should be a free man on a technicality?

Yes. There was "technically" no evidence.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9871 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:46 pm to
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So he should be a free man on a technicality?



SOL aren't a technicality. They were established for a reason. You can't get a fair trial if they wait too long. He didn't get a fair trial. It's BS..
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:51 pm to
Don’t drop the soap, Danny.

Good riddance rapist POS.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:59 pm to
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SOL aren't a technicality. They were established for a reason. You can't get a fair trial if they wait too long. He didn't get a fair trial. It's BS..


Why can’t he get a fair trial? At least one of the Jane Does filed a police report in 2004. There were at least 5 accusers. Masterson didn’t testify. Apparently a jury found him guilty beyond reasonable doubt on 2 of the charges.

If there was a statute of limitations that applied here, he’d be free. The fact that he’s not suggests there was no SOL issue.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85489 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:02 pm to
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Yes. There was "technically" no evidence.


Testimony is evidence you dolt.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
5184 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:10 pm to
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doubt Masterson does even 5 years. He will probably get the Bill Cosby early release special.

He might get a new trial on appeal, but he isn't America's dad like Cosby. Don't see him getting any favors.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9871 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 9:15 pm to
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At least one of the Jane Does filed a police report in 2004.


She waited 16 years to follow up?

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There were at least 5 accusers. Masterson didn’t testify.


Don't care. Only charged with 3. He doesn't have to testify. Not on him to prove innocence. On the state to prove guilt.

quote:

Apparently a jury found him guilty beyond reasonable doubt on 2 of the charges.


Another couldn't and there was a mistrial. Verdicts get overturned all the time.

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If there was a statute of limitations that applied here, he’d be free.


There was a hearing. The state stated that SOL did not apply cause he kidnapped and used violence to rape the women. Also hinted he drugged them.

There is going to be an appeal and this will be one of the central issues that is brought up, from what I am reading. It just should have never happened..
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