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re: Daniel Shaver begged for his life before being killed by cop.

Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:33 am to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:33 am to
The police have no problem release seeing body cam footage when it is in their favor. They say releasing it to the public would hinder their investigation. I wonder how this would hinder their investigation.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74618 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:35 am to
I wonder... if I repeatedly shot unarmed man who was on his hands and knees crawling and begging me not to shoot him... Would I get an offer of pleading negligent homicide?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127609 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:36 am to
Did you miss this?

quote:

Maricopa County prosecutors charged (police officer Philip) Brailsford with second-degree murder, and the Mesa Police Department fired him this month.


Let the justice system work.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:40 am to
quote:

now what pisses me off about threads like these? It hasnt gone to court yet and this whole story is based off of lock lipped prosecutors and an emotional family member.

I get it, cops can suck at life. But since when did we become a society of dumbasses who no longer support innocent until proven guilty?

Play with fire sometimes you get burned. Here's a thought, dont make the police respond to anything and you wont get shot.. pretty simple












You had to be "that guy" didn't you. Daniel was begging them not to shoot him. Maybe cops shouldn't be so quick to unholster their weapons. In fact all of them don't need to be armed at all or at most have a weapon in their vehicle. Without the use of firearms they would be forced to utilize other means to diffuse situations
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:01 am to
quote:

Know what pisses me off about threads like these? It hasnt gone to court yet and this whole story is based off of lock lipped prosecutors and an emotional family member.

Do you feel and comment the same when Joe Thug commits a horrendous and violent crime and is awaiting trial?
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23350 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:12 am to
quote:

The woman told police that Shaver said he used the rifle for his job killing wild birds that made their way into Walmart stores.



Where do I apply?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58281 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:14 am to
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That had zero to do with the moment a cop shot him 5 times while he was pleading for his life and unarmed.


And you know this with 100% certainty?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:17 am to
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And you know this with 100% certainty?










The cop being charged with second degree murder should be your first clue
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:26 am to
Struggle with English?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20404 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:28 am to
?Que?
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:28 am to
quote:

Drinking, at a hotel, and playing with a gun. These are things that when combined, might culminate with you getting shot by the police.

Was there a hoodie involved as well? Cut and dry case...NEXT!
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:33 am to
Not to veer from the real topic, but this seems a little odd:

quote:

The woman told police that Shaver said he used the rifle for his job killing wild birds that made their way into Walmart stores.


A rifle? Hopefully an AIR rifle, right?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:34 am to
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Shaver’s widow also said the prosecutor has offered Brailsford a plea deal that would reduce the charge to negligent homicide, which would carry a minimum sentence of probation and a maximum sentence of 3 and a 1/2 years in prison. The prosecutor has declined to comment on whether a deal has been put forward.

Brailsford shot Shaver with a personal AR-15 rifle, which he was allowed to use, according to police reports.

The gun was inscribed with the phrase “you’re f*cked,” Tucson News Now reports.

The inscription on the gun was a violation of department policy, which was one of the reasons Brailsford was fired.

“He is not a danger to the community,” his attorney, Craig Mehrens, told reportersafter his first court appearance. “He has honorably served the community as a Mesa police officer and he was honorably serving the day he received the call [to the shooting scene].”



'Merica

LINK
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:38 am to
A pellet gun.
quote:

A woman and a man who were staying at the hotel told police they met Shaver in the hallway and went to his room to take shots of alcohol. While in the room, he took out a pellet gun and said it was his job to kill birds that get inside Walmart stores.


LINK
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:42 am to
quote:

Daniel Shaver begged for his life before he was shot by Philip Brailsford, according to reports released by Mesa Police on March 29.

Shaver told “please don’t shoot me,” and “please don’t shoot,” a witness and a transcription of police footage reveals.

Brailsford and other officers had instructed Shaver to crawl toward them with his hands in the air, according to police reports. They said he reached behind his back he would be shot. Brailsford said he opened fire after Shaver reached toward his waistline, possibly to pull up his shorts, according to police reports.


Brailsford told investigators he thought Shaver was trying to get a better firing position and when he reached backwards, the officer fired.

“So that’s when I assessed the threat. I fired my weapon, uh, five times,” Brailsford told investigators.


Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:58 am to
I thought it was comply or die. When did it become comply AND die?
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:58 am to
quote:

so I don't get the big deal.


Because they offered a plea of negligent! Which is a crock of shite.

If you shot an unarmed guy 5 times who was crawling on the ground begging you not to shoot, ON VIDEO, you think they would offer you negligent?

frick those cops, the union, and the DA's office.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:58 am to
Shaver gave his life to get a psycho trigger happy cop off the street. You can spin it into something positive...see?
Posted by Dagoose
Knoxville TN
Member since Nov 2014
541 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:59 am to
I thought were going to be objective

quote:

Know what pisses me off about threads like these? It hasnt gone to court yet and this whole story is based off of lock lipped prosecutors and an emotional family member. 


But then

quote:


Play with fire sometimes you get burned. Here's a thought, dont make the police respond to anything and you wont get shot.. pretty simple



So, you think that cops that killed did so because they were trying to put someone away? That they were playing with fire and should know better?

Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:02 am to
quote:

The local police union is smearing his name on social media.


Whose name? Examples?
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