re: Dan Carlin Hardcore History Addendum - History on Fire

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This is where ignorance of economics and reliance on left wing propaganda gets you. Hes a simpleton

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I don’t know how anybody can think that Hitler was some hands off, magnanimous dictator when it came to economics. I don’t know what leads people to believe the utter nonsense of that thought. The government controlled every facet of that country. If you think critically about it at all, you’ll see for yourself.

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How about the premise that the United States is moving to the right?

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Past tense. It already happened. At least get the time frame correct, if nothing else.

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In late April 1930, Hitler publicly and firmly announced his opposition to Gregor Strasser's socialist ideas and appointed Goebbels as Reich leader of NSDAP propaganda

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Adolf Hitler wasn’t in fricking power in 1930 you fricking shitheel. Whatever he did prior to becoming the fuhrer is inconsequential as it had no affect on policy in Germany.

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don’t know how anybody can think that Hitler was some hands off, magnanimous dictator when it came to economics.

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A simpleton. His economics were heavy handed, authoritarian leftist.

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There is zero evidence to support that. Just because the rest of the world moved left at a faster pace than the United States did doesn’t mean the US moved to the right.

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I gave him numerous examples of legislation as to how this country is not moving and has not moved to the right since the depression (and really before) and has in fact gone further and further left. He, shockingly, did not reply to that.

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Past tense. It already happened. At least get the time frame correct, if nothing else.

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This is so warped and out of touch.

I posted exactly this on page 5 in the thread in regards to the US, he did not respond.

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You’re right, the New Deal, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Great Society, Obamacare, Medicare/Medicaid for all, free college for all, monthly stipends from the government. and going after the “1%” are all right wing policies/beliefs.

I’m sure many more can go further into the weeds than I regarding economic policies of both parties and where they’ve screwed the citizenry. However, every single major increase in the size of government over the size of my wallet has come at the hands of left wing politicians.

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He’s a simpleton as you said and has 0 rebuttal to any of that.

I posted direct refutations.

The war on drugs and the war on terror are just two examples. The downfall of organized labor. These are specific examples of very clear right wing policies.

Due to my background I have made a lifelong study of this. Leftist Movements.So let me give my two cents:

The Nazi Party were enthusiastic socialists. This is undeniable. They were also Fascists. Fascists can be on the Left or Right. Nazis were Leftist Fascists. They instituted gun control, advocated massive social welfare, architected central planning , supported abortion, favored massive taxes, persecuted traditional Christians ( they did that weird Nazi pseudo Christianity crap) , has racial quotas, assigned virtues to certain races, were weirdly Nanny Staters about smoking and dietary habits - and otherwise sought to control EVERY aspect of German life. They were in fact , from the same political philosophical perspective as modern American Progressivism. Which is the antithesis of American Conservatism.

That is not to say that the Right can not be fascist. But it would be impossible to be an American Constitutionalist and be fascist. One could comfortably retain Leftist principles and be a fascist. We saw it today in fact on the streets of Portland.

Because the Nazis were Genocidal Racist Nationalists people have trouble relating them to the American Left who are obviously neither Genocidal or Nationalists. But they are from the same intellectual and philosophical tradition. With key differences. Like Sunnis and Shias or Gumps and Aubies.

Individual Liberty is the antidote to all this madness. The American Constitution lays it all out . That is what we should aspire to CONSERVE

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I posted direct refutations.

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Really?



Doesn’t seem like it to me.

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The war on drugs and the war on terror are just two examples

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Not economic policies.

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The downfall of organized labor.

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The downfall of organized labor is a direct consequence of organized labor. And because of that, organized labor is no longer necessary in most fields.

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These are specific examples of very clear right wing policies.

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Don’t act like leftists don’t love perpetual war as the neocons.